I seldom post comments about training equipment or supplies. The last time was a couple of years ago when I learned about AirFlow bumpers and was so excited about them that I became AirFlow's first distributor. A few weeks ago, there was a discussion on this forum about wingers and someone mentioned SlingerWingers. I'd never heard of them before, so I went to the website, www.slingerwinger.com or www.cedarspringsretrievers.com/ , looked at them and began communicating with the owner of the company. I train almost exclusively with wingers; seldom use bumper launchers. I prefer to use ducks for marks. I was so impressed with what I saw online and the information that the owner gave me that despite the fact that I already own 6 wingers and 3 box launchers (for training on walk-ups, e.g.), I decided to buy one. I bought the "Realistic" model, $10 cheaper than the "Original" model, based upon the owner's assurances that the Realistic's throw was every bit as good as the other model's. I found it interesting that the owner recommended the less expensive model. Speaking of expense, one of the other things that convinced me was that these wingers are more than $100 cheaper than the two most popular wingers. My other 6 wingers are made by both of those manufacturers. The winger arrived in just a couple of days. I began using it shortly after it arrived. The first thing I noticed is that it is very well made with quality materials, has a very good design and very good welds. Setup is a snap; much quicker than my other wingers. My understanding is that the owner will modify the design if you want. The release is a positive one that locks in place before the pouch ring is put into the release. Iíve had others accidentally launch a few times while loading them and itís dangerous when it happens; jerking my arm and wrenching my shoulder. No way it can happen with the SlingerWinger design. I really like the design for the holding the 209 primer. Iíve had primers not fire on some wingers because they donít get hit hard enough. That doesnít happen with the SlingerWinger design and because the primer base is exposed, it seems much louder. In addition, sometimes the spent primer gets stuck in some of my other wingers and itís a pain to remove them. No such problem with the SlingerWinger design. I was surprised that both bands on the same side are on a single ring, but the throw is plenty long, as long as my other wingers. I suppose that I could put all the bands on separate rings to increase the flexibility by using both the upper hooks and the lower hooks, but I donít really see the need right now with the long throw Iím getting. I can also tell just from the design that replacing the servo or wiring will be quick and easy. This is not an advertisement. I'm not selling them and I'm receiving nothing for posting this; nor do I want anything. I just want to let people know that I've very impressed with this product. By the way, he also makes stickmen and retired gunner releases that look very good and are reasonably priced. I'm planning on trying them too.