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    Ok. You have picked your field. You know where the sun is. You know where the wind should be.

    Now what do you do?
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    Re-check Inventory( last week's promises may not be tomorrow's reality) items that can determine if we are to plan 2, 3 or 4 gun stations w/out blind(s)
    -Quantity and Quality of guns and throwers (Will birds fall where we plan?)
    - Available dead birds to get started

    Take a walk around the grounds with my co-judge: discussing preferences & limitations, looking at cover, topography, backgrounds, hazards etc
    Decide on a line that offers a few good challenging single marks that I would like to run. From there we can start building a test and alternatives. Then we can move onto what the dog sees and how various natural factors and our contrived distractions, location of guns and birds, direction of throws, order etc. will influence performances.

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    I like the ask the set up guy they have run from "said area" before? I try to avoid areas that are obvious to run from or run towards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    I would expect you would already have phone numbers. I agree with number of entries (quality is subjective and not a consideration for me). Weather definitely! My third (something I should already know) what birds will we be using? If the answer is all ducks that presents a different scenario for me and one that will affect the way I look at marks.
    Could you expand on the comment about type of birds Doc?
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    Ducks = no short bird key marks and no crosswind marks dogs can smell them a mile away. Did they mark the bird or have a nose?

    Pheasants = no birds through water in the first series, some dogs get nice dry pheasants some get soggy wet pheasants, especially later dogs. Pheasants much more exciting fliers, dogs have to mark birds more accurately, they are better hidden in sparse cover. Also hens especially may not show up well at a distance on very long marks with a bad background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawthorpe View Post
    I like the ask the set up guy they have run from "said area" before? I try to avoid areas that are obvious to run from or run towards.
    Particularly true of mounds on often used training grounds.

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    Also, if you have hen pheasants:

    1. You should plan on longer falls (in terms of space)
    2. You should plan on longer hunt (in terms of time)

    Generally speaking, tests with pheasants require more time, but generate more failure

    If heat is an issue, you need to worry about dogs going down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Carrion View Post
    ...Decide on a line that offers a few good challenging single marks that I would like to run. From there we can start building a test and alternatives...

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    Do you identify one key mark, and build around that? Or identify several good marks and try to make them work together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron in Portland View Post
    Do you identify one key mark, and build around that? Or identify several good marks and try to make them work together?
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    Once the field has been determined, I like to take 10-15 minutes by myself to simply sit down and take in the field. I tell my co-judge to do the same. After the time has passed, I ask him/her, what he/she has seen. I then say what I saw. Usually, one mark jumps out at both of us. From there, I look for the next best mark. Or perhaps the best place to put the flyer. I don't typically worry about interaction at this stage. I am just looking for good marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron in Portland View Post
    Do you identify one key mark, and build around that? Or identify several good marks and try to make them work together?
    Like Ted , just good marks that we may both see, that is all we are looking for at this point. We may choose 1 or more of them depending on the answer to: What do you see?
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