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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoiner View Post
    Per the rule book: At the election of the trial giving club, an Owner-Handler Qualifying Stake may be run without a companion Derby Stake when it is run in conjunction with a Hunting Test event that includes a Master Hunt Stake.

    It doesn't say a derby can't be run at a hunt test, just that a OH Q can be without a derby.
    Those are the FT rules. The Ht rules only allows for an "Owner-Handler Qualifying" to be run in conjunction with a hunt test that also has a Master stake, not even a regular Qual.

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    [QUOTE=Doug Main;2152286]
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Shaver View Post

    Are you sure they aren't having 2 separate AKC events, a Derby/Qual field trial and an AKC hunt test on the same weekend.
    Yes this is what is going on. The D/Q Field Trial is a separate event on Friday. Then on Saturday there is a 2nd event, a hunting test, with Master, Senior and Junior stakes. Then on Sunday is a 3rd AKC event - another HT with Senior and Junior stakes.
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    [QUOTE=Renee P.;2152308][QUOTE=Doug Main;2152286]

    Yes this is what is going on. The D/Q Field Trial is a separate event on Friday. Then on Saturday there is a 2nd event, a hunting test, with Master, Senior and Junior stakes. Then on Sunday is a 3rd AKC event - another HT with Senior and Junior stakes.[/



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    Originally Posted by bjoiner
    Per the rule book: At the election of the trial giving club, an Owner-Handler Qualifying Stake may be run without a companion Derby Stake when it is run in conjunction with a Hunting Test event that includes a Master Hunt Stake.

    It doesn't say a derby can't be run at a hunt test, just that a OH Q can be without a derby.



    Those are the FT rules. The Ht rules only allows for an "Owner-Handler Qualifying" to be run in conjunction with a hunt test that also has a Master stake, not even a regular Qual.








    So does this rule make any sense? Seems to me that it is not much of a rule when it is sooooo easy to get around it just by claiming it is a separate event. I never even thought about it being a rule since our two HT clubs have a DQ the same weekend as their HT. Why is that even a rule??? Kinda like two different way to pronounce the same word



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    Working with AKC a bunch my theory would be that you could run a Derby/Qual & hunt test in the same time as a Hunt test club, they might separate it into different events or not. They just put in the owner/handler qual to allow hunt test clubs just to run a Qual and not require the derby (less stakes). It probably gets around other FT rules about different stakes in a certain time period as well. Just equates to More options. Realistically anything you would want to put on you'd probably just need to contact the AKC, the tend to be very accommodating; when it's about more events, more entries and more fees .
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    Just an update, We ran our third derby yesterday and had no trouble with the flyer. She ran a little to loose with too much hunting in the first and second series which were on land but really did well in the 4th series through the water and we got a JAM so we are making progress. I am meeting some really nice people too. I can see how people get so addicted to this.

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