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    I have to say that I have no doubt that the Russians (and several other of our adversaries) meddle or attempt to meddle in our affairs, including our elections. I am pretty sure that we do the same thing. I would really expect nothing else. The fact that they may at times be more effective than at others concerns me, but I think that we need to realize that knowledge is power and educate ourselves so that we have a better chance of recognizing that interference so that it doesn't sway us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    The first to commission Fusion GPS/Steele Dossier was far-right website, The Free Beacon.

    Of the four main tenets of the Steele Dossier, three have been proven to be true. We still don't know about the fourth which is; what compromising intel does Putin have on Trump.

    And, they were not doing the same thing!

    The Seth Rich conspiracy theory was widely promoted by the far-right media. The Steele Dossier was falsely accused as to the reason for the Mueller investigation. Another conspiracy theory promoted by the desperate far- right.

    The Trump cult also wanted to blame American war Hero the late Sen. John McCain for the origins of the Dossier!

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    The Times also spoke to Joshua A. Levy, an attorney for the firm Fusion GPS (which commissioned Steeleís dossier). Levy told the Times that Muellerís investigation substantiated the ďcore reportingĒ in Steeleís memos, and that included the allegation that ďTrump campaign figures were secretly meeting Kremlin figuresĒ and that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed ďa covert operation to elect Donald J. Trump.Ē


    I forgot the exact number but there were over 100 contacts made between Trump's officials and Russian assets prior to the election!
    By that logic, you would be supportive of Russian intelligence interfering in our elections as long as they were exposing the truth, and furthering your political views? Where is your outrage about the illegal residents protesting and swaying politics on our streets here? You certainly can see the hypocrisy of seizing on possible election meddling by one country, and ignoring it from others.

    This has been going on since the very first election we have ever had. Can you even think of an election anywhere in the world where the US has not attempted to support or influence a victory for a preferred candidate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPL View Post
    I have to say that I have no doubt that the Russians (and several other of our adversaries) meddle or attempt to meddle in our affairs, including our elections. I am pretty sure that we do the same thing. I would really expect nothing else. The fact that they may at times be more effective than at others concerns me, but I think that we need to realize that knowledge is power and educate ourselves so that we have a better chance of recognizing that interference so that it doesn't sway us.


    Yes we do! There were several stories posted on social media by Russian bots that made its way here on PP back during the campaign.

    The best tool for uncovering these fake stories would be the top Fact Checking sites.
    Corrupt regimes like Trump's donít fight crime, they legalize it. They donít chase the crooks, they hire them. They donít stop lying, they tell you the truth is whatever they say it is. Honor used to mean something, as did truth and integrity. In the Trump culture, those character traits mean nothing. It is sad to see what is becoming of our country.














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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post

    That wasn't a conspiracy theory!







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      Trump still faces other charges for Emoluments Clause violations.








    Corrupt regimes like Trump's donít fight crime, they legalize it. They donít chase the crooks, they hire them. They donít stop lying, they tell you the truth is whatever they say it is. Honor used to mean something, as did truth and integrity. In the Trump culture, those character traits mean nothing. It is sad to see what is becoming of our country.














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    Quote Originally Posted by sick lids View Post
    By that logic, you would be supportive of Russian intelligence interfering in our elections as long as they were exposing the truth, and furthering your political views? Where is your outrage about the illegal residents protesting and swaying politics on our streets here? You certainly can see the hypocrisy of seizing on possible election meddling by one country, and ignoring it from others.

    This has been going on since the very first election we have ever had. Can you even think of an election anywhere in the world where the US has not attempted to support or influence a victory for a preferred candidate?
    ^The twisted logic of a Trump cultist.
    Corrupt regimes like Trump's donít fight crime, they legalize it. They donít chase the crooks, they hire them. They donít stop lying, they tell you the truth is whatever they say it is. Honor used to mean something, as did truth and integrity. In the Trump culture, those character traits mean nothing. It is sad to see what is becoming of our country.














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    Quote Originally Posted by roseberry View Post
    Again, let me ask the wise here on potus, did the russians interest in attacking national elections end in 2016? No, they have already begun to interfere with the coming election.

    Why in the name of Holy Jesus did they stop? Why especially if it's so easy, cost effective and so many are willing to cooperate? Is that what the far-right media is saying?
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    That they would initiate a "warlike attack" and win......then stop the war after "their guy", "Putin's puppet" and "a traitorous nazi dictator" won power is to me the biggest tin foil hat conspiracy theory I have heard. One of Putin's goals is to weaken and undermine western Democracies. And yes, it worked for him in the USA.


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    Corrupt regimes like Trump's donít fight crime, they legalize it. They donít chase the crooks, they hire them. They donít stop lying, they tell you the truth is whatever they say it is. Honor used to mean something, as did truth and integrity. In the Trump culture, those character traits mean nothing. It is sad to see what is becoming of our country.














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    Too bad the great divider in chief didn't address the "meddling" when he announce the ruskies were meddling in the election back in Sept of 2015.

    He didn't because he thought (a rare task for him) that they were supporting killary.

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    I’m pretty sure that the Russians have inserted 20 agents into the Dem primaries to ensure Trump gets re-elected. Those idiots can’t be for real.
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    The Russia 'BoogieMan' is less likely to impact our next election than the number of illegalsvoting, number of dead people voting, number of people voting twice or moretimes, etc. etc. all brought to you by the ever-welling and corrupt DNC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampcollielover View Post
    The Russia 'BoogieMan' is less likely to impact our next election than the number of illegalsvoting, number of dead people voting, number of people voting twice or moretimes, etc. etc. all brought to you by the ever-welling and corrupt DNC!
    Speaking of which, when is the committee studying illegal voting ever going to release their findings?

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