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    Why is California always, so it seems, on fire? It is not the only state with trees, wind and droughts. Could it be environmental BS? Lack of controlled burns? Lack of reservoirs? Inquiring minds want to know....
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    I think there are a few reasons. Decades of not allowing fires to burn and/or prescribed burning by the forest service, lots of dead trees from insects/diseases, changing climate With increased drought conditions year after year, and the annual winds...take a small fire, add 50 mph winds, now you have a really big fire. Also, lots of people living in fire prone areas. As you know all western states have fires, I think Cali has a perfect situation for bigger issues. My daughter lives in Flagstaff, and they had a number of fires this summer and one of the driest monsoon seasons in history.
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    From what I understand it's a crime to remove a single dry twig from a California forest. Plus sh!t happens.
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    Lots of dead trees from the bark beetle and a 7 year drought. Last 2 years we have had better than normal rain that has provided kindling for a big fire. Last year, high winds blew big dead trees into power lines that sparked devastating fires. Now, when the winds pick up, PG&E shuts off the power so they can't be blamed. I would do the same...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Farrar View Post
    Lots of dead trees from the bark beetle and a 7 year drought. Last 2 years we have had better than normal rain that has provided kindling for a big fire. Last year, high winds blew big dead trees into power lines that sparked devastating fires. Now, when the winds pick up, PG&E shuts off the power so they can't be blamed. I would do the same...

    Wonder why the big dead trees and under growth are still there?
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    Another problem is the TYPE of brush in many of those areas. There is lots native brush like creosote bush that is filled with turpines and other volatile oils, which will burn like gasoline, then people build into those areas. Just asking for trouble. Apparently, the state known for its intereference in nearly everything, doesn't have codes requiring that people building in these fire prone areas build using fire proof or fire resistant materials and landscape appropriately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Farrar View Post
    Lots of dead trees from the bark beetle and a 7 year drought. Last 2 years we have had better than normal rain that has provided kindling for a big fire. Last year, high winds blew big dead trees into power lines that sparked devastating fires. Now, when the winds pick up, PG&E shuts off the power so they can't be blamed. I would do the same...
    Hoping you and yours, together with all the California RTF members are safe from harm and bearing up under the stress of power outages, fouled air and fear of shifting winds. Watching homes go up in flames as highways are choked with evacuees is downright frightening, even if you are safe from danger there is an ominous sense of dread when the sun is hazed over by smoke and the air tastes of flame and ash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker & Jessie View Post
    Wonder why the big dead trees and under growth are still there?
    The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) reported in December 2017 that approximately 27 million trees had died statewide on federal, state and private lands since November 2016. The tally brought to 129 million the number of trees that have died in California forests during years of drought and bark beetle infestations since 2010.
    During its review, the Commission found that California’s forests suffer from neglect and mismanagement, resulting in overcrowding that leaves them susceptible to disease, insects and wildfire.

    https://lhc.ca.gov/report/fire-mount...-sierra-nevada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Farrar View Post
    The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) reported in December 2017 that approximately 27 million trees had died statewide on federal, state and private lands since November 2016. The tally brought to 129 million the number of trees that have died in California forests during years of drought and bark beetle infestations since 2010. During its review, the Commission found that California’s forests suffer from neglect and mismanagement, resulting in overcrowding that leaves them susceptible to disease, insects and wildfire. https://lhc.ca.gov/report/fire-mount...-sierra-nevada

    So you are saying it's another mismanagement problem in California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker & Jessie View Post
    So you are saying it's another mismanagement problem in California.
    That’s what we do best...
    Our state government could screw up a wet dream.
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