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    Biden threatens President of Ukrane to either fire the prosecutor that is investigating the energy company that his son is a board member OR ELSE. Of course his son has IMPECKABLE qualifications to serve on that board to the tune of over $80,000 salary per month. They are that of a drug addicgt and being kicked out of the military. The democrats have the gaul to describe this as simply dirt. If this is not influence peddling, nothing is. They claim the President is not above the law but all his political foes are. Go figure.

    All senators and congressmen and women that are running for President are doing all they can to see that Trump is impeached, thinking that will help them win. We shall see.

    Franco thinks just about all political appointees in high positions should be jailed but gives no charges. He praises a military officer but does not Gen. Flynn. he also accused boerder patrol leaders of taking a bribe. The democrats are mute when it comes to ANTIFA, the organization most responsible for the intolerance of free speech.
    This should stir the pot.

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    The dems "impeachment" circus could prove to be a big bonus for Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    Biden threatens President of Ukrane to either fire the prosecutor that is investigating the energy company that his son is a board member OR ELSE. Of course his son has IMPECKABLE qualifications to serve on that board to the tune of over $80,000 salary per month. They are that of a drug addicgt and being kicked out of the military. The democrats have the gaul to describe this as simply dirt. If this is not influence peddling, nothing is. They claim the President is not above the law but all his political foes are. Go figure.

    All senators and congressmen and women that are running for President are doing all they can to see that Trump is impeached, thinking that will help them win. We shall see.

    Franco thinks just about all political appointees in high positions should be jailed but gives no charges. He praises a military officer but does not Gen. Flynn. he also accused boerder patrol leaders of taking a bribe. The democrats are mute when it comes to ANTIFA, the organization most responsible for the intolerance of free speech.
    This should stir the pot.
    There you go, Sundowing again. And, it was $50,000. a month.

    There is plenty of reliable info easily obtainable to anyone interested in reality.

    Trump's attempts at a Quid Pro Quo and extortion began AFTER the DOD letter.

    "But Fox News has confirmed that the Pentagon’s undersecretary for policy, John Rood, sent a letter to Capitol Hill lawmakers in May certifying “the government of Ukraine has taken substantial actions to make defense institutional reforms for the purposes of decreasing corruption [and] increasing accountability.”

    In regards to corruption, the most recent crime wave to hit the Ukraine was Trump and his goons including Giuliani.

    Biden calling for ousting Ukraine’s prosecutor was supported by the United States, the Western countries and the International Monetary Fund.

    Biden had the support of the EU and the IMF. We held up the money because of the corruption. Shokin was perceived as utterly corrupt and very close to President Poroshenko, The Ukrainian prosecutor didn't enjoy the positive reputation Trump claimed. The notion that Shokin was widely seen as a "very good" and "very fair prosecutor" is inconsistent with US Intel, the EU and the IMF. All three released the money soon after Shokin was booted out.

    During appearances on Fox, Chris Wallace said on Friday he found the "spinning" that Trump's supporters have engaged in over the last day to be "astonishing and deeply misleading." Wallace told Shepard Smith that he expected such behavior from the White House, but had hoped those not employed by the administration to "look at the truth." The "Fox News Sunday" host added that he would like to see Trump's allies operate in a "reality-based situation" and "deal in the facts."

    and

    Les Parnav, one of Trump's goons has now flipped. His attorney indicated that Parnav was angry that Trump said he didn't know who he was though they have been together several times, including fundraisers! Parnav has worked or still works for the pro Russian elements in the Ukraine.

    This is going to get really ugly for Trump.
    "No figure, regardless of the heights they've reached and no figure regardless of the office they occupy, should be allowed in this country to cry witch hunt or fake news in an attempt to deflect their criminal wrongdoing."










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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Biden calling for ousting Ukraine’s prosecutor was supported by the United States,
    Oh really, what was the vote on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkenpoacher View Post
    Oh really, what was the vote on that?
    Don't be so ridiculous!

    Do you really think every aspect of Foreign Policy is voted on?

    Biden was point-man for the USA, the EU and the IMF in telling President Poroshenko that he need to fire Shokin! Shokin had a bad reputation of being a crook and money was helped up until he was ousted. It's called responsible government!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    There you go, Sundowing again. And, it was $50,000. a month.

    There is plenty of reliable info easily obtainable to anyone interested in reality.

    Trump's attempts at a Quid Pro Quo and extortion began AFTER the DOD letter.

    "But Fox News has confirmed that the Pentagon’s undersecretary for policy, John Rood, sent a letter to Capitol Hill lawmakers in May certifying “the government of Ukraine has taken substantial actions to make defense institutional reforms for the purposes of decreasing corruption [and] increasing accountability.”

    In regards to corruption, the most recent crime wave to hit the Ukraine was Trump and his goons including Giuliani.

    Biden calling for ousting Ukraine’s prosecutor was supported by the United States, the Western countries and the International Monetary Fund.

    Biden had the support of the EU and the IMF. We held up the money because of the corruption. Shokin was perceived as utterly corrupt and very close to President Poroshenko, The Ukrainian prosecutor didn't enjoy the positive reputation Trump claimed. The notion that Shokin was widely seen as a "very good" and "very fair prosecutor" is inconsistent with US Intel, the EU and the IMF. All three released the money soon after Shokin was booted out.

    During appearances on Fox, Chris Wallace said on Friday he found the "spinning" that Trump's supporters have engaged in over the last day to be "astonishing and deeply misleading." Wallace told Shepard Smith that he expected such behavior from the White House, but had hoped those not employed by the administration to "look at the truth." The "Fox News Sunday" host added that he would like to see Trump's allies operate in a "reality-based situation" and "deal in the facts."

    and

    Les Parnav, one of Trump's goons has now flipped. His attorney indicated that Parnav was angry that Trump said he didn't know who he was though they have been together several times, including fundraisers! Parnav has worked or still works for the pro Russian elements in the Ukraine.

    This is going to get really ugly for Trump.
    You are such a joke. So you think it was ONLY $50,000 per month For a drug addict that was supposedly kicked oul of the military dishonorably??? Last I heard reported, it was about $88,000 per year, but who would even allow him to be on a board of a reputable company? Hunter claimed to be a member of a law firm but I wonder if it ever let him represent a client. If this was not influence peddling then there is no such thing.

    But only a deranged person would claim that the only cable network to ever rigg a presidential primary debate, "is the most creditable of all networks".

    You want Pompao to be jailed and he is also a decorated veteran but you praise the Lt. Col. that object3d to Trump's phone call. It appears that the only military personel that merits your praise are those that agree with your political positions.

    For all here, please don't view Franco as a Libertarian. He is far from it. He cares nothing about individual freedoms or the right of due process. He is comfortable with ANTIFA that is the major organization that acts to limit free speech. When he has nothing else, he chooses to acuse those who disagree with him as "racist and a multitude of "phobs". There is nothing about him that is Libertarian. He is just another liberal, socialist political hack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    You are such a joke. So you think it was ONLY $50,000 per month For a drug addict that was supposedly kicked oul of the military dishonorably??? Last I heard reported, it was about $88,000 per year, but who would even allow him to be on a board of a reputable company? Hunter claimed to be a member of a law firm but I wonder if it ever let him represent a client. If this was not influence peddling then there is no such thing.

    But only a deranged person would claim that the only cable network to ever rigg a presidential primary debate, "is the most creditable of all networks".

    You want Pompao to be jailed and he is also a decorated veteran but you praise the Lt. Col. that object3d to Trump's phone call. It appears that the only military personel that merits your praise are those that agree with your political positions.

    For all here, please don't view Franco as a Libertarian. He is far from it. He cares nothing about individual freedoms or the right of due process. He is comfortable with ANTIFA that is the major organization that acts to limit free speech. When he has nothing else, he chooses to acuse those who disagree with him as "racist and a multitude of "phobs". There is nothing about him that is Libertarian. He is just another liberal, socialist political hack.
    I'm trying to decide if you;

    1) You are desperate to be relevant.
    2) You can't focus and jump all over the place nonsensically.
    3) Really have nothing on the subject at hand.
    4) Swampy is your half-brother.
    5) all of the above
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I'm trying to decide if you;

    1) You are desperate to be relevant.
    2) You can't focus and jump all over the place nonsensically.
    3) Really have nothing on the subject at hand.
    4) Swampy is your half-brother.
    5) all of the above
    Typical of you, posts taht do not deal with the issues. Explain how $50,000 per month is more reasonable than $80,000 per month to a drug addict who was dishonorably discharged from the military and has no other relevant qualities to serve on a companys board?? Surely you can think of some useless propaganda to justify such a position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by drunkenpoacher View Post
    Oh really, what was the vote on that?
    Don't be so ridiculous!

    Do you really think every aspect of Foreign Policy is voted on?

    Biden was point-man for the USA, the EU and the IMF in telling President Poroshenko that he need to fire Shokin! Shokin had a bad reputation of being a crook and money was helped up until he was ousted. It's called responsible government!
    Sure Frankie and the President of the United States should also make sure that countries clean up corruption within their ranks if they expect to receive any foreign aid.
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    Frankie....why is it you have completelystopped list the sources you get all your information from? Without thisyour credibility is seriously in question! If you tell us it was CNN orNPR or? After we stop laughing, we will at least understand that you arebeing misled, but that you are not just plain delusional.

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