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    If President Trump was a "nation security" risk as Nazi Pelosi said a while ago; you'd think she'd be getting the shit over to the Senate ASAP!!!!! All politics and "stick your finger in the wind" governing for votes.

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    The House did subpoena key witnesses. It would have taken it past the election before it went through the courts. Ignoring House subpoenas is a violation of the Law and clearly part of the cover up.

    If the Senate were to subpoena key witnesses, the witnesses can NOT ignore them! They would be compelled to testify under oath. Which of course the Senate Repubs don't want because it would prove that Trump is guilty of both Articles of Impeachment.

    Now, that issue of witnesses is being presented to the public by not forwarding the Impeachment right a way. By holding the Impeachment Articles for several weeks, the question becomes, why are the witnesses being blocked if Trump is innocent?

    Because he is NOT innocent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    The House did subpoena key witnesses. It would have taken it past the election before it went through the courts. Ignoring House subpoenas is a violation of the Law and clearly part of the cover up.

    If the Senate were to subpoena key witnesses, the witnesses can NOT ignore them! They would be compelled to testify under oath. Which of course the Senate Repubs don't want because it would prove that Trump is guilty of both Articles of Impeachment.

    Now, that issue of witnesses is being presented to the public by not forwarding the Impeachment right a way. By holding the Impeachment Articles for several weeks, the question becomes, why are the witnesses being blocked if Trump is innocent?

    Because he is NOT innocent!
    sYou so constantly ignore the facts. There is NOTHING that the Senate can do that the House could not do when having the "Impeachment Inquiry". Peloli lied when presented the 3 requirements for impeachment or is lying now. The Congressmen and women that voted for impeachment claiming OVERWHELMING evidence to convict should vote to send the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate or they must have been lying when they claimed "overwhelming evidence". If that is the truth then there is no need for more witnesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    sYou so constantly ignore the facts. There is NOTHING that the Senate can do that the House could not do when having the "Impeachment Inquiry". Peloli lied when presented the 3 requirements for impeachment or is lying now. The Congressmen and women that voted for impeachment claiming OVERWHELMING evidence to convict should vote to send the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate or they must have been lying when they claimed "overwhelming evidence". If that is the truth then there is no need for more witnesses.
    Earth to Cary; the evidence is overwhelming. But, the Senate Repubs are cowards and more concerned with reelection than being honest and honoring their oath of office. McConnell can place heavy pressure on witnesses to comply. He won't because he is part of the cover up.
    Why would the Russians try to re-elect Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Earth to Cary; the evidence is overwhelming. But, the Senate Repubs are cowards and more concerned with reelection than being honest and honoring their oath of office. McConnell can place heavy pressure on witnesses to comply. He won't because he is part of the cover up.
    Unlike you who has no respect for the Constitution, they TRUST THE VOTER and the Constitution. I would hope that he would RESPECT the individual rights and freedoms of all, something you have evidently forgotten. I think that even an idiot realizes that any pressure that McConnell could exert, Nancy Pelosi could also exert. But is that too much for you to understand??

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    I think that even an idiot realizes that any pressure that McConnell could exert, Nancy Pelosi could also exert. But is that too much for you to understand??
    NOT TRUE C'mon Man, Please try to be honest with yourself, please try to take the glasses off. Seriously, Cary the reaper has more power than you are giving him credit for. To see that however you will need to look in the mirror.

    You are right that the House could have went to court regarding the subpoenas. Franco is right in that if they had done that they would be stuck there for ever. The Reaper can now put forth a full fledged trial, as he should, where if executive order is thrown into the fire then one must ask, WHY?

    And again, you and I both know, there is no way on gods green earth the red held Senate will NOT NOT remove him from office. So again the question has to be asked, why not allow the others who were subpoenaed and refused to testify?
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    The recipient of a duly issued and valid congressional subpoena has a legal obligation to comply, absent a valid and overriding privilege or other legal justification. But the subpoena is only as effective as the means by which it may be enforced.Mar 27, 2019



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    Dereliction of Duty would best describe McConnell's attempt at the cover up.

    Nixon knew he couldn't hide from them. But then, we had people in Congress that considered themselves to be Americans above all else. They placed the welfare of the country before Party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
    NOT TRUE C'mon Man, Please try to be honest with yourself, please try to take the glasses off. Seriously, Cary the reaper has more power than you are giving him credit for. To see that however you will need to look in the mirror.

    You are right that the House could have went to court regarding the subpoenas. Franco is right in that if they had done that they would be stuck there for ever. The Reaper can now put forth a full fledged trial, as he should, where if executive order is thrown into the fire then one must ask, WHY?

    And again, you and I both know, there is no way on gods green earth the red held Senate will NOT NOT remove him from office. So again the question has to be asked, why not allow the others who were subpoenaed and refused to testify?
    Do you really think that only those that were subpoenaed would be the only ones demanded to testify?? Trump actually wants a trial complete with witnesses and McConnell is pursuading him to TAKE A WIN and proceed to the election and let the vothers decide. The Republicans will want the whistle blower, Shiff and his staff, to testify. I suspet there would also be a number of others to also be subpoenaed to also testify. McConnell is determined to prevent the Senate from being used as a circus and I think he will talk Trump into taking the win and go about his business. Let the dims explain how it was so important to national defense that Trump be removed from off and then state why the Articles of Impeachment were witheld.

    Do you really think that the Senate will convict Trump?? I don't think so. The biggest thing McConnell has to worry about is the fact Plasto Paste Face Pelosi can send the Articles over at any time and what he will do, will depend on when and if she chooses to. The dims put on their dog and pony show and it flopped. McConnell says time to move on. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Because he is NOT innocent!
    What is your President NOT innocent of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkenpoacher View Post
    What is your President NOT innocent of?
    Winning the election for starters! Lol
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