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    Watch it now, when you ask a liberal a hard, to the point question, it frquently throws them into a mental freak-out....it may be sometime before he can 'gather his thoughts'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampcollielover View Post
    Watch it now, when you ask a liberal a hard, to the point question
    Since the truth is to horrible to face, Trump handling the situation very well and looking presidential.
    I eagerly await the next deflection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkenpoacher View Post
    OK I give up. What should the response of the United States be to what Iran has done?
    Personally, at the moment, I think there is really no need for another response. We hit them where it hurts. They struck back just enough to quiet their followers and then screwed it up by downing a plane full of Iranians. Big lose on Iran's part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPL View Post
    Personally, at the moment, I think there is really no need for another response. We hit them where it hurts. They struck back just enough to quiet their followers and then screwed it up by downing a plane full of Iranians. Big lose on Iran's part.
    I agree with you entirely, but how much better might things have gone if the nuclear agreement had been maintained, if contact and co-operation had increased rather than reversed? If Stan W. was still here he would be reminding us of China’s “belt and road “as being the threat of the 21st century not the Ayatollahs in Tehran. However, because some are ideologically stuck, Iran is simultaneously being pushed away from the West and towards China as it is becoming less democratic domestically, neither aspect helps our need for peace or global primacy.
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    If, if and if only then.........it might be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blind ambition View Post
    I agree with you entirely, but how much better might things have gone if the nuclear agreement had been maintained, if contact and co-operation had increased rather than reversed? If Stan W. was still here he would be reminding us of China’s “belt and road “as being the threat of the 21st century not the Ayatollahs in Tehran. However, because some are ideologically stuck, Iran is simultaneously being pushed away from the West and towards China as it is becoming less democratic domestically, neither aspect helps our need for peace or global primacy.
    This is just another mess Obama left for the country. Instead of taking the issue to the Senate as a TREATY which it was in all respects except requiring Senate approval. He knew it would not pass without verification by the US so he implemented it as an Executive Order. He had no problem taking such actions. I am glad that Trump reversed Obama's Executive Order! Maybe future Presidents will remember the failure of such actions and avoid such arrogant actions in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampcollielover View Post
    Watch it now, when you ask a liberal a hard, to the point question, it frquently throws them into a mental freak-out....it may be sometime before he can 'gather his thoughts'!
    I don’t always agree with him, but I wouldn’t call him a liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    This is just another mess Obama left for the country. Instead of taking the issue to the Senate as a TREATY which it was in all respects except requiring Senate approval. He knew it would not pass without verification by the US so he implemented it as an Executive Order. He had no problem taking such actions. I am glad that Trump reversed Obama's Executive Order! Maybe future Presidents will remember the failure of such actions and avoid such arrogant actions in the future.
    I don't believe it to be a mess, maybe an imperfection, somewhat like ACA. Put it in place then improve upon it.

    As for the Executive order thing, Unfortunately that is one of the powers of the President. Like it or not I see it happening again when a future Democrat sits in the White House to undo somethings they feel were unjust or wrong of the present admin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald View Post
    I don't believe it to be a mess, maybe an imperfection, somewhat like ACA. Put it in place then improve upon it.

    As for the Executive order thing, Unfortunately that is one of the powers of the President. Like it or not I see it happening again when a future Democrat sits in the White House to undo somethings they feel were unjust or wrong of the present admin.
    I don't think you can undo "butt hurt" with an executive order.

    And that is the major cause of all this bull plop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    This is just another mess Obama left for the country. Instead of taking the issue to the Senate as a TREATY which it was in all respects except requiring Senate approval. He knew it would not pass without verification by the US so he implemented it as an Executive Order. He had no problem taking such actions. I am glad that Trump reversed Obama's Executive Order! Maybe future Presidents will remember the failure of such actions and avoid such arrogant actions in the future.
    Obama administration didn't started then you'd need to go back a few more presidents..

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