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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah Fitzsimmons View Post
    Actually I was demonstrating the Mr. Hillmann video as showing the correct way to hand-toss a mark. Yes, what I meant was the plane of the arc was perpendicular to the ground.

    Another thing, if a dog gets hit with a bumper he might associate it with pain and not a fun game and become bumper shy. Please don't spank your dog with a bumper too.

    We certainly don't want retrievers to become shy of marks or think they are enemy number one. One of the worst things you can do to punish a child is spank him with one his toys.

    Has an adult ever hit you with your favorite toy to make that toy become an instant hated object forever?
    Long story,, but I shot my dad in the ass with my BB gun when I was a kid... He bout bludgeoned me to death with it.. (AKA Lardys DIRECT PRESSURE)

    Seriously!! Ten years ago or so if Gooser woulda posted some crazy shit like wolf boy has,, the members back then would have joyfully casterated me!!

    P.S. There aint nothing more fun killer, that being on a party boat with the deck hands walkin around with clubs!! I mean talk about Party Poopers!

    P.S. X 2 I hardly hate guns now..
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    Just wait Frits till your friggin dog wont seat to a duck!! Its gonna get real!!
    It is far easier to spit on the work of others than it is to produce something better yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KwickLabs View Post
    Jonah, my suggestion is to find a group of trainers that know what they are doing. If you are fortunate enough to live
    near an AKC or HRC hunt club, this may aid you in getting past the confusion that is being demonstrated in your posts.

    Everyone starts somewhere. It might be more productive to seek informed, experienced trainers that can present
    hands on advice.
    +1- I have a friend who I loaned some dog training videos to for his pup. He saw the ideas but decided he could IMPROVE them, but caused confusion in the dog because he did not know enough to fully understand what he did was counter to how the dog learns.
    Bottom line-stick to the program, even if you don't completely understand everything initially.
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    Since you’ve been doing this since at least the ‘90’s and you are here dispensing advice, it might be helpful to provide your credentials or some idea of your experience and success in the retriever games so that others can determine the value of your opinions
    Matt McKenzie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah Fitzsimmons View Post

    "It's called logic and common sense".
    HMMM? This strikes my funny bone pretty good considering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt McKenzie View Post
    Since you’ve been doing this since at least the ‘90’s and you are here dispensing advice, it might be helpful to provide your credentials or some idea of your experience and success in the retriever games so that others can determine the value of your opinions
    Exactly what I was wondering, as Shayne taught us to ask years ago.
    Fitz, have you stayed at a Holiday Inn?😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah Fitzsimmons View Post
    Credentials. If you were to get hit on the head with a fast-moving bumper might that convince you that it is not OK for your dog to experience the same?
    Do you have any notion of the hardness of those things? Imagine adding 100 mph velocity to one of those things. Think of getting hit on the un-helmeted head
    with a fast ball. A plastic retriever bumper is even harder than a leather-covered baseball and much heavier to boot. It's called logic and common sense.
    Think of the laws of physics: kinetic energy.

    At pooch parks I've seen people hit tennis balls with rackets underhanded for dogs to fetch. One has to be careful not to hit their dogs with one of these tennis bats as well.
    "logic and common sense."

    Use it and you'll never club your dog in the head with a bumper, tennis racket or anything else.
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    I think Josh is a Russian troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    Just wait Frits till your friggin dog wont seat to a duck!! Its gonna get real!!
    Now this thread has potential; Hit the dog? wait until you pop yourself in the mouth while twirling a bumper and fall in the pond. Or you be twirling and knock your significant other out of their chair...IT HAS HAPPENED.. I think we need to make entire series on proper bumper twirling safety; even just throwing could take a few seasons. I might need buy this series; I tend to throw straight up and hit myself in the head. For some reason I don't remember the lesson!!?
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    Fitz,
    Give it up lad, as ye be casting a bad light on the Irish. Rest easy Mate, as I won't be using me Blackthorn walking stick whilst hiking with me dogs, as I might trip and strike me "stupid" dogs o'er the head and render them clobbered.

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