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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    Tell me again how this is not about controlling a population

    Calif has closed Anza Borrego Desert State Park where it will probably be a blistering hot 95 degrees today...but you can go to Newport Beach but cant park your vehicle there. or you can wait till Monday when many of the local golf courses will open but you are not allowed to arrive earlier than 30 minutes prior to your tee time and you must walk, there will be no sharing of carts....and no mention of wearing masks at either the beach or the golf course
    Just like 55 MPH during the gas crunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    Just like 55 MPH during the gas crunch.
    Do you mean when we were running out of oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    Tell me again how this is not about controlling a population

    Calif has closed Anza Borrego Desert State Park where it will probably be a blistering hot 95 degrees today...but you can go to Newport Beach but cant park your vehicle there. or you can wait till Monday when many of the local golf courses will open but you are not allowed to arrive earlier than 30 minutes prior to your tee time and you must walk, there will be no sharing of carts....and no mention of wearing masks at either the beach or the golf course
    Well at least you can play a round of golf and go to the beach.. Here in NH (Rep. Governor) shutdown have been extended for another three weeks.. Golf courses closed all state beaches and parks closed..


    Too bad the CDC give States these guidelines but won't take responsibility when States follow them..
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    I looked for Marvin's post on his life experiences but could not find it. My parents talked of not having any money during the depression but Mother talked of not going hungry. If someone showed up hungry, there was always enough milk and flour to make milk gravy and biscuits for biscuits and gravy. There were still people working.

    This is different. We are printing money but if there is nobody producing goods and serrvices, then the money will not be acceptable as payment. Lack of production has also affected out ability to harvest, ship, process and deliver these goods and services. If there is no food delivered to Manhaten, what do you think these people will do?

    This is not going to be pretty. The fact is that it will be dirty and filled with mistakes when looking back on its affects. I hope for the best but fear for the worst. The worst is hunger, lawlessness, anarchy and the total failure of our government and way of life. I expect problems with even a small opening of our economy. I hope we will stay the course as continued closure of our economy will surely create hunger and all that goes with it.

    The next 2 weeks should let us see what the future is.

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    caryalsobrook,

    My elder brother lived through the Blitz as a little boy in industrial Birmingham, with all of the attendant miseries that even a child could understand. He describes coronavirus as "a sod, but nothing like being ******* bombed." So that's one man's perspective.

    I'm more optimistic than you about the economic impact; I think and hope that recovery will be be pretty quick in the manufacturing and services sectors, though I agree that debt will be daunting I don't see it as a game stopper. Agriculture is largely unaffected here, and the distribution network that supports it seems robust.

    As to the future over yonder a lot of people have lost a lot of money betting against the US economy. 27 1/2% of my portfolio in in US equities so if any of you are in gainful employment please work harder and faster!

    Best of luck,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Blimp View Post
    caryalsobrook,

    My elder brother lived through the Blitz as a little boy in industrial Birmingham, with all of the attendant miseries that even a child could understand. He describes coronavirus as "a sod, but nothing like being ******* bombed." So that's one man's perspective.

    I'm more optimistic than you about the economic impact; I think and hope that recovery will be be pretty quick in the manufacturing and services sectors, though I agree that debt will be daunting I don't see it as a game stopper. Agriculture is largely unaffected here, and the distribution network that supports it seems robust.

    As to the future over yonder a lot of people have lost a lot of money betting against the US economy. 27 1/2% of my portfolio in in US equities so if any of you are in gainful employment please work harder and faster!

    Best of luck,

    Eugene
    Thanks for the post Colonel. Hard to imagine "being bombed". Just a few hours here of a few maniacs caused us to make changes.

    As I understand it, one can't be farther from the Channel or the Atlantic than 100 miles, in England. Here, most of our vegetables come from as far away as California which is over 2000 milea away. PicSweet which is a vgetable processing company in Bells Tn. now gets most of its produce for processing, from Mexico which is over 1000 miles away. So the logistics here are quite different than your home.

    I truly hope for the best. If we can restart our economy safely and within a reasonable time, I am perfectly fine and really can continue as if nothing has happened. If not, then I want the option to be able to help those in my family and those who are also family by choice. That would depend on having product to trade. At my age, my only fears are that I waste a single second I have left and the very distinct possibility of a stroke that would render me the occupant of a nursing home without the ability to determine the quality of my care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    I looked for Marvin's post on his life experiences but could not find it. My parents talked of not having any money during the depression but Mother talked of not going hungry. If someone showed up hungry, there was always enough milk and flour to make milk gravy and biscuits for biscuits and gravy. There were still people working.

    This is different. We are printing money but if there is nobody producing goods and serrvices, then the money will not be acceptable as payment. Lack of production has also affected out ability to harvest, ship, process and deliver these goods and services. If there is no food delivered to Manhaten, what do you think these people will do?

    This is not going to be pretty. The fact is that it will be dirty and filled with mistakes when looking back on its affects. I hope for the best but fear for the worst. The worst is hunger, lawlessness, anarchy and the total failure of our government and way of life. I expect problems with even a small opening of our economy. I hope we will stay the course as continued closure of our economy will surely create hunger and all that goes with it.

    The next 2 weeks should let us see what the future is.
    Though we had no refrigeration we were never hungry. Everything was canned including beef,
    but no pork. To this day I remember Grandma opening a jar of rhubarb that had some mold
    on it. She scooped off the mold & we ate the rest. This was in the days of commodities being
    passed out at the relief center. We were the only family in our county from the private sector
    not on relief. Grandpa said he didn't need it & would not participate. On occasion the relatives
    would share something that was tasty.

    You can't eat money, you can't shelter in it, nor does it provide much heat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    Though we had no refrigeration we were never hungry. Everything was canned including beef,
    but no pork. To this day I remember Grandma opening a jar of rhubarb that had some mold
    on it. She scooped off the mold & we ate the rest. This was in the days of commodities being
    passed out at the relief center. We were the only family in our county from the private sector
    not on relief. Grandpa said he didn't need it & would not participate. On occasion the relatives
    would share something that was tasty.

    You can't eat money, you can't shelter in it, nor does it provide much heat!
    I wonder how many here, understand your last sentence???

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    This was taken down from Facebook so probably won’t last long on YouTube.

    This is two doctors from California and their analysis of the current data. It is a little
    long but well with the time in my opinion.

    https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU

    This is the second part.

    https://youtu.be/zb6j7o1pLBw
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckheads View Post
    This was taken down from Facebook so probably won’t last long on YouTube.

    This is two doctors from California and their analysis of the current data. It is a little
    long but well with the time in my opinion.

    https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU

    This is the second part.

    https://youtu.be/zb6j7o1pLBw
    Nope, those guys aren't pushing an agenda nope not at all..

    When you believe in something it doesn't take much convincing that you're right..

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