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    Ok Hillmann folks I have a question I hope you can help me with. I have a new to me 3year old male and I am working on building the game. I am wanting to use a bumper or paint roller. Right now he is absolutely nuts about a tennis ball type toy and more mild about bumpers and paint rollers. Can I build that type of drive toward them? Any suggestions? THANKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Ace View Post
    Ok Hillmann folks I have a question I hope you can help me with. I have a new to me 3year old male and I am working on building the game. I am wanting to use a bumper or paint roller. Right now he is absolutely nuts about a tennis ball type toy and more mild about bumpers and paint rollers. Can I build that type of drive toward them? Any suggestions? THANKS!
    To be honest 'Ace' ..Give the man himself a call ! His number or contact details are easily found ,and I bet he answers
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    "Any suggestions?"

    Well, you said you were wanting information about building the game. Here is my advice. Click
    on the following two links. The first will give you a quick observation and the second provides a
    link to the complete "online" presentation. Both are worth it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzeIAb_xaj8

    https://billhillmann.net/2019/07/18/...bill-hillmann/
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    Quote Originally Posted by polmaise View Post
    To be honest 'Ace' ..Give the man himself a call ! His number or contact details are easily found ,and I bet he answers
    The one time I tried that, the charge was about $100/hour to talk to him. Part of his "game"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daren Galloway View Post
    The one time I tried that, the charge was about $100/hour to talk to him. Part of his "game"

    I guess, in this case, talk ain't cheap. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Ace View Post
    Ok Hillmann folks I have a question I hope you can help me with. I have a new to me 3year old male and I am working on building the game. I am wanting to use a bumper or paint roller. Right now he is absolutely nuts about a tennis ball type toy and more mild about bumpers and paint rollers. Can I build that type of drive toward them? Any suggestions? THANKS!



    Well first off I just gotta say your about 2 years and 10 months behind the GAME. I don't charge $100/hr and my advice is free so take it for what its worth. Get rid of the tennis balls and never let him see another one the rest of his life!!! Also forget the paint roller and just start playing with bumpers and real birds on occasion, bumpers way more than birds for now.

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    Thank you to kwicklabs for the helpful lonks. I appreciate it. Steve Shaver thank you for your criticism. I am glad it is free. If you go back and read carefully you will see why I am as you put it behind the game. The dog is new to me!!! I have had him 2 weeks. Thanks for being so helpful there. You have reminded me of why I do not come here much and have further reminded me to not waste my time here anymore. What a helpful place for people to come and learn about training. Thanks for nothing.

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    Dang it Steve, you need to sugar coat those posts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Ace View Post
    Thank you to kwicklabs for the helpful lonks. I appreciate it. Steve Shaver thank you for your criticism. I am glad it is free. If you go back and read carefully you will see why I am as you put it behind the game. The dog is new to me!!! I have had him 2 weeks. Thanks for being so helpful there. You have reminded me of why I do not come here much and have further reminded me to not waste my time here anymore. What a helpful place for people to come and learn about training. Thanks for nothing.
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    tennis balls are a difficult 'toy' to beat. Your dog has 3 yrs of tennis balls. Maybe he was never required to be steady and no other constrictions surrounding them either... If that is the case, it is going to take patience on your part.... something I do with young pups is attach a bumper to a 10 to 20 foot length of line. Toss it and drag it.... let the pup chase and catch. This might help replicate the 'rolling/bouncing' tennis ball action, at least in the short term, until he realizes bumpers are fun too.


    Continue working on obedience and adjusting to his new life. If you are trying to make him be steady to the thrown bumper, don't. Treat him just as you would if he were an 8 week old pup. Build up the excitement and enthusiasm... odds are he will always prefer a tennis ball (most dogs do).....

    I am truly amazed no one has suggested force fetch yet... LOL (please don't).
    The way I look at it, every dog is an opportunity to be a better trainer, and every day is a new day to be a better trainer to the same dog we trained yesterday.

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