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    Does anyone know of any old threads about dealing with no-goes. There is supposedly a no-go drill

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    Steve, marks or blinds? You can PM me.

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    I should have been more clear. It is on marks, usually on the last bird of an Open or AM in a tight set of marks. He doesn't want to go back in on the same line. It's not a momentum problem, he usually pins the first two marks, then refuses to leave. I am pretty sure he knows where it is, but he doesn't want to take the line. He doesn't no-go on blinds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Babcock View Post
    I should have been more clear. It is on marks, usually on the last bird of an Open or AM in a tight set of marks. He doesn't want to go back in on the same line. It's not a momentum problem, he usually pins the first two marks, then refuses to leave. I am pretty sure he knows where it is, but he doesn't want to take the line. He doesn't no-go on blinds.
    Not doing it in training? Maybe try mix of double and tight single long bird.Teach it first for confidence. He's a good marking dog.Simplify to make it clear. Hope other chime in too.

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    I would think that success on the ABCD Drill would be a step towards making your dog more comfortable on tight set-ups. -Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Babcock View Post
    Does anyone know of any old threads about dealing with no-goes. There is supposedly a no-go drill
    Who did the dogs basic's? Go to them and ask how they handled it in the yard. You need the dogs history before you can move forward with a solution.
    This will help you come up with a correction the "dog understands". Also, ask how he's been corrected on returning to old falls, or taking poor lines to marks and or blinds.
    The devil is in the details.

    The answer on how and what to do lies within these questions. Teach it, teach it again, then enforce what they have learned. Don't punish for making a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Babcock View Post
    I should have been more clear. It is on marks, usually on the last bird of an Open or AM in a tight set of marks. He doesn't want to go back in on the same line. It's not a momentum problem, he usually pins the first two marks, then refuses to leave. I am pretty sure he knows where it is, but he doesn't want to take the line. He doesn't no-go on blinds.
    I'd think more about this highlighted comment. The only time I've ever had an AA dog no-go on a mark, was because they didn't have a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Babcock View Post
    I should have been more clear. It is on marks, usually on the last bird of an Open or AM in a tight set of marks. He doesn't want to go back in on the same line. It's not a momentum problem, he usually pins the first two marks, then refuses to leave. I am pretty sure he knows where it is, but he doesn't want to take the line. He doesn't no-go on blinds.
    You might try setting up an "over/under quad with all converging birds. All birds will land along the same line ie at 75yds 150, 200 and 250 all initially run as singles then as singles/multiples and later as true quad,
    We spend a lot of time making sure they do not go back towards an old fall they need to know sometimes it is ok

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    Could you run the 2 closer birds in your tight triple,,as a double, then throw the long bird as a single for a while, to gain confidence.. BB can be a big help..
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