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    There seem to be strange or or usual cases. Here's mine:

    Grandson is serving abroad the USS Theodore Roosevelt. They are currently deployed in the Far East. After a port call in Viet Nam, they hurriedly put to sea when the epidemic gained media exposure. Too late. Sailors started to come down with CV. Total of 36 confirmed cases to date. They were to proceed to Guam where they would be confined pierside. Now instead, the bulk of the crew has been put ashore while a skeleton crew is sailing back to the US, The crew left on Guam is in quarantine. My guess is that are at Anderson Air Base as the naval facilities there wouldn't have room for probably 4500. They will remain there until all are tested and are beyond the incubation period. Then they'll be airlifted home.

    Nothing has been said about the aircraft but they would be a real problem. If they were left on Guam. then some day soon they'll have to have a tanker drag to bring them home. Such an operation would involve a dozen or so tankers to carry fuel for the Navy aircraft plus fuel for the tankers. If they weren't left on Guam, then they'll have to be flown off before home port (San Diego) which means aircrews from stateside will have to be flown out to the carrier as it nears home.

    Meanwhile, since the CV has so little known about it, the crew on board will need to disinfect an aircraft carrier and somehow keep from getting sick on the way home.

    I'm not suggesting that anything is wrong with what has been decided, only the monumental task that was presented to the Navy. The cruise ships in the Caribbean are a problem. Imagine how much bigger the problems that are included with an aircraft carrier with aircraft and bombs and bullets and nuclear reactors . . .
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    I see the Captain was relieved of his command.

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    Yes. The Captain was relieved. In a minute you'll see why. However, when a letter such as he sent is made public, the Navy will react as they did. If he had sent it up his chain of command, he would have been safe. When a commanding officer says in a letter, "Because of this (whatever the problem), I can't perform the assigned mission", he gets results. He didn't have to go public . . .which copies sent to 20-30 people is.

    Now the bad news. On Sunday there were 36 confirmed cases. Now there are 800!. The ship is not returning to San Diego but remains at Guam. About 1/2 the crew has been tested and is ashore in quarantine. As crew are removed, about 500 will remain to keep security and support. They are now standing 12 hour watches and eating the last of a dwindling supply of food. They are to get MRE's but Alex doesn't know when they'll arrive. Sadly, as a seaman assigned to shipboard communications, he'll remain aboard.

    He doesn't know how many other ships in the Far East are in similar situation.
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    WRC HR Lennoxlove's Run with Wolves JH, WCX ("Cheyenne") ... still so fondly remembered
    HRCh Struan's Devil's in De Tails SH, WCX ("Lucy") ... as is her daughter
    SR CH Struan's Flight of Fancy JH WC ("Muse") ... gone now also
    Struan's Master of the Hunt JH, WC ("Charlie") ... also gone
    Struan's Just Plain Perfect ("Jane")
    NSDTR/CH Struan's Driving Us Crazy JH WCI ("Daisy") ... the baby in charge
    Honeyrun's Duchess of Argyll ("Socks")
    Dixie ... the "spare parts" dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    Yes. The Captain was relieved. In a minute you'll see why. However, when a letter such as he sent is made public, the Navy will react as they did. If he had sent it up his chain of command, he would have been safe. When a commanding officer says in a letter, "Because of this (whatever the problem), I can't perform the assigned mission", he gets results. He didn't have to go public . . .which copies sent to 20-30 people is.

    Now the bad news. On Sunday there were 36 confirmed cases. Now there are 800!. The ship is not returning to San Diego but remains at Guam. About 1/2 the crew has been tested and is ashore in quarantine. As crew are removed, about 500 will remain to keep security and support. They are now standing 12 hour watches and eating the last of a dwindling supply of food. They are to get MRE's but Alex doesn't know when they'll arrive. Sadly, as a seaman assigned to shipboard communications, he'll remain aboard.

    He doesn't know how many other ships in the Far East are in similar situation.
    Too many people believe they can get away with being a Snowden. It don't work that way
    in the military. & as you know, there is a necessity for it to be that way.

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    The situation your grandson is in must be awful for you and his parents along with the families of the entire crew. Hoping for a great outcome for everyone.
    fOriginally Posted by a ftrustworthy long-standing fcontributor.

    If ANYONE, be it an employee, employer, retired, military of government bureaucrat witnesses what they believe to be a crime, they have a responsibility to report it.

    Hello, my name is Blind Ambition and for the benefit of those in doubt, I agree with the above statement in its entirety.

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    I hope it all works out. 760 of those sailors and half of the F/A-18s are from my town.
    Best of luck to your grandson.
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    was trying to read up on this story but it seems the reports are very slanted depending on who and where you receive your news source... I did find it very interesting to see the send off the crew gave heir Captain when he was escorted off

    Does that mean he is getting an Article 32 hearing or have charges already been brought up. No doubt his military career is all but over along with any hopes he may have had on getting a Star
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    It is always interesting to see how non military people think the military should be run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    It is always interesting to see how non military people think the military should be run.
    It has been the downfall of some great military strategies and stifled some of our greatest Generals
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    was trying to read up on this story but it seems the reports are very slanted depending on who and where you receive your news source... I did find it very interesting to see the send off the crew gave heir Captain when he was escorted off

    Does that mean he is getting an Article 32 hearing or have charges already been brought up. No doubt his military career is all but over along with any hopes he may have had on getting a Star
    First of all, the figure of 800 cases is likely wrong and based upon the grandson's ties into the "scuttlebutt" network. However, the news media aren't any better. I saw a story this morning that cited a much lower figure. In the same paragraph, they cited a significantly different figure.

    Now in answer to your question on the Article 32, the latest I have read is that an investigation was underway that may lead to an Art 32 proceeding. News from the Navy is particularly screwy as the formal sources are 2-3 days late and the informal sources are all over the waterfront.
    Eric

    WRC HR Lennoxlove's Run with Wolves JH, WCX ("Cheyenne") ... still so fondly remembered
    HRCh Struan's Devil's in De Tails SH, WCX ("Lucy") ... as is her daughter
    SR CH Struan's Flight of Fancy JH WC ("Muse") ... gone now also
    Struan's Master of the Hunt JH, WC ("Charlie") ... also gone
    Struan's Just Plain Perfect ("Jane")
    NSDTR/CH Struan's Driving Us Crazy JH WCI ("Daisy") ... the baby in charge
    Honeyrun's Duchess of Argyll ("Socks")
    Dixie ... the "spare parts" dog

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