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    Geez Wayne, I 'm sorry. Come on Shiner we all pulling for you.
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    Hope he responds to the meds. We had a chessie bitch who developed ocular myositis 2 weeks after a vaccination appointment. It’s the same thing except it affects the eyes instead of the jaw muscles, and was treated as an autoimmune response issue. Her eyes were literally bugging out of her sockets, it was bizarre. She took high doses of prednisolon for a couple of months, then had a second flare-up when we tried to lower the dosage. Vet put her back on high dose pred with a half-speed taper, which took about 18 months I think. It was expensive and a nuisance (the whole drinking water, ravenous appetite, and constant need to pee.) She was able to return to training within a couple of months and went on to earn her HRCH/MH. You’ll have different issues since he can’t open his mouth much: can he eat?

    Hope this gives you a little encouragement.

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    He is eating and drinking fine. I saw him late yesterday and he appeared a little better. Vet increased dosage of prednisone to twice a day. Also added antibiotic.
    Will be next Monday before we get test results back.
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    MMM blood test came back negative. Going to see vet Thursday morning(5/21/20). Maybe an abscess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Nutt View Post
    MMM blood test came back negative. Going to see vet Thursday morning(5/21/20). Maybe an abscess?
    Was blood for the test drawn before any treatment was started? Was Cpk elevated?

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    Blood was drawn before any treatment. I don’t know what Cpk is? Can ask when he sees vet on 5/21/20. We saw a little improvement today in Shiner. Picking up 2” bumpers pretty good on happy bumper toss.
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    Years ago my MH bitch all of a sudden could not open her mouth and attempts to open it made her scream in pain. Even under sedation we could not open her mouth. Assumption was MMM. Off to ISU where they took a biopsy of the muscle, blood, etc. Everything came back normal. Internist was trying hard to find something—postulated lymphoma, a tumor behind her eye, all sorts of nutty stuff. I kept her at home with me on Rymadyl.

    One day several weeks later, she jumped down off my lap, grabbed a bone and crammed it back to her molars and started gnawing away. Never knew what caused it, but we assumed maybe an injury to her jaw (jumping into cover and slamming into something hard). Several years later, I discovered a molar split in half from top to bottom that was dead all the way down the root.

    Never did know for sure.

    Hopefully it is the same for your guy—nothing awful, just something that will take a while to heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Nutt View Post
    Blood was drawn before any treatment. I don’t know what Cpk is? Can ask when he sees vet on 5/21/20. We saw a little improvement today in Shiner. Picking up 2” bumpers pretty good on happy bumper toss.
    Cpk is an enzyme released from damaged muscles, it should have been markedly elevated in masticatory myositis. I have found grass awns in the tonsils crypts which cause similar symptoms. Also to be considered periorbital cellulitis which can be very serious causing pressure on the optic nerve. A thorough exam of mouth and throat is indicated which will require sedation.

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    Thanks Ed........
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    This video shows where the problem first showed up. On the last retrieve it was a big mallard requiring him to open his mouth wide.
    https://youtu.be/AjDDVStv89I
    When the sneezing persisted we came off the line and gave him some water. Then came back and ran a land blind and a water blind. Both with orange 2" bumpers. No problem in picking up.
    Last edited by Wayne Nutt; 05-20-2020 at 08:54 AM.
    Wayne Nutt
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    Castile Creeks Rawhide, MH "Rowdy"

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