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    Does anyone have any drills of sort for improving initial lines while running cold blinds in the field? We have developed this issue in the past couple weeks, bad initial line then cast very well to the blind stake. FWIW, this is an almost 3 year old dog that does MH/QAA work relatively well.
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    Lining wagon wheel, start with 8, if you get proficient go to 16, if you are brave alternate white and orange bumpers

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    Lining wagon wheel, start with 8, if you get proficient go to 16, if you are brave alternate white and orange bumpers
    Dr. Ed, no issues with wagon wheel as it is black and white to her. Only arises in the field on cold blinds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake McNeese View Post
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    Lining wagon wheel, start with 8, if you get proficient go to 16, if you are brave alternate white and orange bumpers
    Dr. Ed, no issues with wagon wheel as it is black and white to her. Only arises in the field on cold blinds.
    I see you said the dog has no issues with wagon wheel, and I believe you. However, if you have Facebook account, go watch the interview and discussion Pat Burns did a couple weeks ago about Wagon Wheel. It’s on his page “Pat Burns Elite Retriever Training”

    While it might not help the situation your dog is dealing with, I think you will like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birddogn_tc View Post
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    Lining wagon wheel, start with 8, if you get proficient go to 16, if you are brave alternate white and orange bumpers
    Dr. Ed, no issues with wagon wheel as it is black and white to her. Only arises in the field on cold blinds.

    I see you said the dog has no issues with wagon wheel, and I believe you. However, if you have Facebook account, go watch the interview and discussion Pat Burns did a couple weeks ago about Wagon Wheel. It’s on his page “Pat Burns Elite Retriever Training”

    While it might not help the situation your dog is dealing with, I think you will like it.
    Thanks. I will check it out.
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    Does the dog look in the right place but veer off when leaving the line? Or, does it not really lock in before you send it?

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    Walking random simple blinds (6-10/session)no more than 20-30 yds starting in a featureless field with the goal of not needing to handle. It requires the handler to pay strict attention to the dog's head,eyes and focus to provide the dog with almost instant reward and confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabireley View Post
    Does the dog look in the right place but veer off when leaving the line? Or, does it not really lock in before you send it?
    I feel like I have lined up correctly and looking out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Carrion View Post
    Walking random simple blinds (6-10/session)no more than 20-30 yds starting in a featureless field with the goal of not needing to handle. It requires the handler to pay strict attention to the dog's head,eyes and focus to provide the dog with almost instant reward and confidence.

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    Tim, I don’t think it’s a confidence issue because after I kick her off and I correct her line she has good momentum and takes correct casts to the destination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake McNeese View Post
    Dr. Ed, no issues with wagon wheel as it is black and white to her. Only arises in the field on cold blinds.
    Do multiple blinds in the same session, at least 5. Pick them up 1,3,5,2,4. Then repeat in a different order, no recall just precision handling. Same concept as lining wagon wheel on a much larger scale.

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