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    Quote Originally Posted by minnducker View Post
    Quoting from the rule book: “Derby stake tests are limited to marked retrieves and dogs which are handled on such retrieves shall be eliminated from competition.” Note that the rule book doesn’t say handling on a mark, and it doesn’t say handling on the way to a mark, it says handling on RETRIEVES. A dog is in the process of a RETRIEVE from when it leaves the handler’s side, until it delivers the bird. So handling the dog on the way back is clearly handling on a RETRIEVE. I’m not saying this is fair or unfair, or a good or bad rule, but it is a rule. Maybe it should be changed. I respectfully can't rationalize not eliminating a dog who is handled in a RETRIEVE when you read the rule book. I'm done, thanks.
    I sincerely hope you don't judge my upcoming derby dog or my all age dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    Where does the rule book support this? Page, Section and Paragraph, please. -Paul
    Where doesn't it support! This a common sense issue, hence the rule book is designed to give the judges leeway.
    A lot of people clearly aren't ready to hold the book! My advice would be to train with a knowledgeable Ft group and have this discussion during the setup.
    You will hopefully gain an understanding.

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    Wayne, I hear you! WTH! Do any of them actually run field trials?????

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    The dog IS under judgement until done and behind the judges. I don't worry about the return unless the handler makes it a huge issue which the dog ignores. If cheating coming back that's the handlers problem to take care of in training.

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