I'm not smart enough to figure out what your poll is really asking so I'm not going to vote, I'll just tell you my answer. ((EDIT: OK Peake, no fair going back and rewording the poll after you read my post. I can look stupid enough WITHOUT your help, thank-you very much!!)Peake said:What is your view on the poll topic? Could it be even the most solid conditioned retrieve Dawg needs the occasional refresher or "once done always done"???
First, force-fetch is used every time your dog retrieves: Fetch & Recall. It is, therefore, 'refreshed' with continued use. If any part of the process is obviously degraded you shine it up right then and there, whether it's the manner in which the fetch object is held, fetched, or delivered.I'm not sure what you mean by "refresher". Force-fetch is a tool, and as such, you USE it when the need presents itself. I do not consider utilizing force-fetch to correct a dog who say, drops the bird on the line as a "refresher". I am simply using the force-fetch tool in the manner in which it was designed. Drop the bird, I will say "fetch". Fail to pick it up in the manner I desire, and the ear pinch will ensue, forthwith.
Hmmm. Old thread. First clue was Lisa Van Loo. I thought she would say, "It depends." I believe she is the one who invented that phrase.
I have had to redo a few dogs that someone else who shall remain nameless, mostly because they didn't really tell me who it was , force fetched. They must have been in a hurry because nothing they had done was thorough.
But on dogs that I have force fetched for myself and some for friends of mine, I have never had to go back and re-force. That isn't to say that I haven't pinched an ear, but that when I've had to resort to an ear pinch the dog immediately understood why and complied. My two personal dogs have never given me trouble. Scooter doesn't like geese and lets me know every time...Every. Stinkin. Time. But he picks them up and half assed brings them back.
so I say yes if it's done right it stays done.