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Given current AKC FT rules the determination of amateur status is up to the field trial committee. How would vote as member of your club's committee?
Amateur prize money
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Tim,
Where is the cutoff point .
The Rules,etc, say No to any thing of value
So here we go, $25 bag of dog food,$50 two bags and all the way up to the matter at hand,$25,000.
I say If you can't take $500, $1000 or yes even the "big nut",$25000 or you become a Pro.
As the Rules are written now a bag of dog food makes you one also
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Where is the cutoff point .
The Rules,etc, say No to any thing of value
So here we go, $25 bag of dog food,$50 two bags and all the way up to the matter at hand,$25,000.
I say If you can't take $500, $1000 or yes even the "big nut",$25000 or you become a Pro.
As the Rules are written now a bag of dog food makes you one also
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No.Jerry said:
That is not what I am saying.
What I am saying is that if one can take anything as a prize, even as little as a $25 bag of dog food and remain an amateur.
Then, since the Rules do not quantify the prize, the size of the prize does not matter even $25000
Course like Bohn said earlier today . If somone is pissed at you......... :roll:
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This is NOT an AKC event, John. What someone wins here doesn't mean SQUAT to the AKC.
If the winner is not earning any of his/her livelihood training a dog (or boarding, or handling, or any of the other criteria) for income (whether it's the winning dog or not), winning this prize or a $25 bag of dog food does not change the winner's amateur status in the AKC's eyes at a non-AKC sanctioned event.
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Keith G.
If the winner is not earning any of his/her livelihood training a dog (or boarding, or handling, or any of the other criteria) for income (whether it's the winning dog or not), winning this prize or a $25 bag of dog food does not change the winner's amateur status in the AKC's eyes at a non-AKC sanctioned event.
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What if the prize was One meeeeeelyonnn dollars. If i won the first one. You can bet your azz i would take the whole next year off training for the next one!! Winning WRCs is my livlihood and i'm gonna run some AKC Ams in between.Keith Griffith said:
Shayne - doesn't really care... just feels like talking.
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So is my ex girlfriend... but she was still fun!Angie B said:
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They are an amateur until the AKC says they are not.
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What does an AKC event has to with it? Is it okay to recieve money from a UKC event and run an AKC event as an amateur? If so I could restrict my billings to handling at UKC events and still be an AKC amateur.Keith Griffith said:
There is no mention of limiting these activities to AKC events in the rules.
Money is money and any money is "part of livelihood".
Merchandise is the gray area.
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Why do i care if SHE had fun?Angie B said:
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Ladies...you need to remember Shayne is simple minded...he knows not what he says. :shock:Shayne Mehringer said:
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KeithKeith Griffith said:
I need some clarification here.
Consider the following example.
Shayne pays me $$$ to run his dog in the WRC. I am therefore being paid to handle a dog in a "hunting or field trial competition".
Are you saying that the AKC would not consider me to be a pro?
Are you saying that the AKC would overturn a Field Trial Committee decision that I was a pro?
Or something else entirely?
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