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I'm curious about the dogs that have gone to Australia(or anywhere over seas) and thier owners.How do you go about picking a dog from half way around the world?I had a hard time choosing and there are good breeders all over the midwest.Here's a bunch of questions:How do you pick a litter and breeder from that far away?How does the pup handle the flights?Is there a long quarantine process.What comparisons do you see with your dogs there if any?Was it worth all of the extra effort?What dogs stand out as the best American dogs to you?
 

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One of the pups from my Amy x Stanley litter went to a professional trainer in Germany. We both researched the "socks off" each other before she decided she wanted a puppy and I decided she'd make a good owner. She also did a tremendous amount of research on the pedigree and asked a number of excellent questions not just about the sire and dam, but about some of their siblings and puppies from those siblings! Thankfully I had done my research because she knew her business!!

Doing research today is much easier because of the internet ie: I was able to follow how she's done in European field trials and how highly she's regarded in her field.

She flew to the US and together we took the puppies to my vet for their physical so she could ask any questions she wanted about their health and also so we could get the papers done properly.

She wanted to test them and I had no problem with that until she pulled out a rabbit skin and I thought "Oh, oh, this isn't gonna work. Nobody's going to be interested in that." Wrong!! Those puppies loved it just as much as the dead duck I brought with me!

When it came time to pick her puppy, Petra and I had narrowed both our picks down to two males. I gave her first choice because they were both very acceptable to me. The one she chose paid a little more attention to her than the other. In European F/T's it's very important that the dog sit quietly next to their owner for extended periods of time and she felt he would be better at that than the other. They're almost 2 yrs. old now and she's very happy with him and he already has a well known breeder from Denmark who wants to breed a bitch to him as soon as he finishes his clearances. He's doing very well in the early stakes and has a great website.

The puppy flew back to Germany in a Sherpa bag in the cabin of the plane and there were no quarantines, but she did need to have the proper health clearance and papers from my vet. Everything flight wise went well except for the flight from San Jose to New York. She had the bag open so she could pet the puppy and thus keep him quiet and the attendent told her she couldn't do that, so Petra just looked at her and in German said she didn't speak English. That took care of that. The flight back to Germany was totally 'dog friendly' and she was allowed to take him from his bag and hold him on her lap. :D
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One of the pups from my Amy x Stanley litter went to a professional trainer in Germany. We both researched the "socks off" each other before she decided she wanted a puppy and I decided she'd make a good owner. She also did a tremendous amount of research on the pedigree and asked a number of excellent questions not just about the sire and dam, but about some of their siblings and puppies from those siblings! Thankfully I had done my research because she knew her business!!

Doing research today is much easier because of the internet ie: I was able to follow how she's done in European field trials and how highly she's regarded in her field.

She flew to the US and together we took the puppies to my vet for their physical so she could ask any questions she wanted about their health and also so we could get the papers done properly.

She wanted to test them and I had no problem with that until she pulled out a rabbit skin and I thought "Oh, oh, this isn't gonna work. Nobody's going to be interested in that." Wrong!! Those puppies loved it just as much as the dead duck I brought with me!

When it came time to pick her puppy, Petra and I had narrowed both our picks down to two males. I gave her first choice because they were both very acceptable to me. The one she chose paid a little more attention to her than the other. In European F/T's it's very important that the dog sit quietly next to their owner for extended periods of time and she felt he would be better at that than the other. They're almost 2 yrs. old now and she's very happy with him and he already has a well known breeder from Denmark who wants to breed a bitch to him as soon as he finishes his clearances. He's doing very well in the early stakes and has a great website.

The puppy flew back to Germany in a Sherpa bag in the cabin of the plane and there were no quarantines, but she did need to have the proper health clearance and papers from my vet. Everything flight wise went well except for the flight from San Jose to New York. She had the bag open so she could pet the puppy and thus keep him quiet and the attendent told her she couldn't do that, so Petra just looked at her and in German said she didn't speak English. That took care of that. The flight back to Germany was totally 'dog friendly' and she was allowed to take him from his bag and hold him on her lap. :D
Suzanne B
Lovely thread Suzanne. Rabbit??? ummmm...makes sense to me. Continued laughing as I read on, and she pretended not to speak English. Smart woman that one.
 

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Hi Bob,

I was hoping Yank's breeder would add their views, or Lainee who reared him for me. As a feel guilty by not answering your questions, here I go...............mind you, Yank is the only dog I have ever imported, so my reply will be limited and I am sure the second time will be easier as all importing regulations are known.

I had travelled over to the US twice, in my zest of further training education, after hearing your trialling games and hunting were similar to ours. How I loved watching prenational training 5 years ago. I had two dreams while watching the ballet. One to organise importing semen and the other to enquire if any pro's would be interested in holding a training seminar in Australia.

Soundess is a very important criteria, besides genetic health.

I sat on the fence for over 4 years regarding importing, on average once a month :lol:, wondering if importing semen or a dog, would be the best course of action for me. I had studied pedigrees, and made endless international telephone calls. The honesty I received, was priceless.

Finally after deciding on a sire, and wanting a line bred dog........I read an advertisement on the RTF. I must have looked at the ad, every hour over a period of a day. Looked after the following day and pondered.

As long suffering had be aware of my search, I only to nag a little. With trembling fingers I rang Yank's breeder, and luckily a couple of pups were still available. Payment was sent.

Lainee reared Yank for me, while quarantine regulations were filled. I had known it was a long process...........6 months. Lainee as well as driving around for the routine quarantine tests, spent many hours in obtaining Penn hip, preliminary elbow radiographs (copies of which were also sent to Australia), CNM, PRA and CERF. Every test had me worried and so joyful as his results, came back good. During this time she also filled me in with day to day activities and photos. Her kindness can never be repaid.

I was very keen to have Yank evaluated by a trusted pro, but time was against us, as Yank, again required blood tests and vet check, before final clearance was received from Australian customs. Frankly by the time Yank had settled with a pro and looked at........lets just say.....I got over that wish.

Yank flew from Lainee's to California, with a great pet transport company, again who were heavily researched. There are apparently a few bad apples. US quarantine vet checked him out and apart from some excitement teeth chattering, which required another check, he was on his way.

He handled the flight well, and arrived in Australia. Every time I visited Yank the staff would look sadly but with good humour at me,as he was crazy as a loon, compared to other dogs they had seen. Yank had no problems in quarantine. What an understatement. After 2 weeks in lock up, I finally dragged my eyes from Yank, and looked about. Other dogs were trembling, tails between legs, and depressed. Yank greatly enjoyed watching the further buildings being erected, he was quite possessed when he heard the nail gun.

On the eve of Yank's release, my mother, who has since passed away, suffered another health crisis. Long suffering picked Yank up. Unfortunately not organised with a crate. He had quite a drive home in an open sedan.

Yank's looks are different to the average working labrador in Australia. Not for one second am I concerned of such, as I bred the youngest National winner here, and she is certainly has a unique beauty.

Yank training wise, is a joy. He tries very hard. Yesterday he blizzed a quad. I have bored you enough and I need to get packing, driving to training 3 hours away today!!! Please excuse any typos, Yank lies peacefully as I type, but as soon as I move, he will be bolting out to the truck. :wink:
 

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Thanks Suzanne and Aussie.You typed your fingers to the bone.Two really good stories.My sister and law is from Austrailia and they have a place in Perth although right now thier work has them in Wales.They're always trying to get us to visit but I always figured it's too far to fly unless I could get alot of time off to stay awhile.I just couldn't imagine a puppy going that far.I drove mine home from Michigan.Other than a blizzard it was pretty uneventful.Still very memorable though,getting the little guy home.
 

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I own the only other fully 100% american dog in australia that trials.My pup begins his trialling career in 1 week .he is out of an imported bitch recommended by texan and hall of fame trainer Jim Swan. In her pedigree you can find Afc FC Volwoods ruff n ready FC AFC misty morning woodie and honcho's litter sister amongst other high profile US dogs.His father is "Boss" who I'm sure you are familiar with. I have read up a lot about Boss pups and owners comments on this site and that undoubtedly influenced my decision to purchase "Bossco"
Like Julie's dog he is very american looking,athletic, and has a good work ethic.he is much calmer than my australian dogs but he is nervous around people and a bit dog aggressive although not to a great degree. he is extremely steady at the line but is rowdy around the house and is a chronic barker. having said all that i am hopeing that he will be a major player in our trials and I believe that he can become a RTCH.
I will know more after easter when he has been trialed extensively for 3 days and I can begin to access his trial temperament .
talent wise I have owned dogs with more ability and dogs that are more spectacular and dogs that are better 3rd bird markers but i think "Bossco "brings an excellent balance to the table that most of my other dogs lacked
However the bottom line is 'trial temperament" I have had very high powered dogs that grossly fail to hold together at trials and I am hopeing that "Bossco" will be the solution to my problems
 

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Aussie Wrote:
I was hoping Yank's breeder would add their views
Julie,
Very good post. I wanted to answer, but felt Bob was really asking your take on it not mine. You and Lainee did all the hard work of getting Yank ready. All we did was love him and socialize him to the best of our ability for his first 8 weeks or so. Please continue to keep up posted on Yank's progress. We are so happy for him to be in such a great home as YOURS !

Thanks,
Marty and Lesa
www.ramblinmaxx.com
 

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check out these pictures on AWRC http://www.australianworkingretrievercentral.org.au/NSWnewspro/photos/index.html
i would say that overall our labs are more true to type than yours but more athletic and toey than the Brits.In saying that there have been several UK imports that have contributed phonomenal drive to the gene pool.
Chief batman if you send me your e-address I will send you some shots of my dogs plus some of our more famous and successful dogs and you can make up your own mind
Kadnook tanks a heap is in no way related to candlewoods tanks alot but Tanks owner is friends with Mike lardy and that may have had some bearing on the choice of name
 

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Stoney,

I am looking forward to watching your youngster at the Easter trial. I heard through the grapevine, due to your son's long standing ill health you will not be handling. Sorry to hear, hope your family troubles once again settles.

Lesa and Marty,

I will indeed Email you after this weekend, to advise how we went. Yank HEEL!!!!! :lol: Good boy!!!!
 

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There are several working labradors with American lines here in Australia. Geoff Cole has imported a couple of dogs and imported semen. Both his boys were by Thane Temujan Tyler, so there is Ironwood Tarnation, Super Chief, Air Express, Itchin to Go and Trieven Thunderhead etc etc, running through the veins of several competing dogs. I myself have dogs from these lines.
A very good bitch (now retired) in Victoria, is by NFC AFC CFC PPS Luckys Super Toby, and, there are new lines still to be seen in the field.

Importing from the USA is a long, expensive process which few feel inclined to partake of. The American lines though, will I feel, influence the breeding of field dogs over here to some degree.
 

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Only two dogs from the states taking on all the locals.Yank and Bossco sure have thier work cut out for them.Let us know how they do.Thanks again for all the info.It's been very interesting.
Bob,

Geoff Cole and I run in different, what you call circuits. This will be the first trial, since Geoff ran years ago, US full siblings (from different litters, one of whom won the Australian national 3 times!!), that two US 100% US labradors are competing against each other. Mind you, I was under the impression that Geoff was running his US dog (a half brother owned by Stoney - bred by Geoff) also. The final tally may be 3???

I am so looking forward to watching and running in the same stakes, as well as another youngter of mine. My two older are in All Age, so I will very busy running between stakes.

fetchindawgs,

Importing is fun. As they say, the first time is the hardest. LOL.
 

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neither Ruff or or Touch are 100% US.they are about 3/4 US. Both have "Misty' on the last line of the pedigree. The dog that Geoff is running at easter is "Diamond" who is by Ruff and out of "Roxy" imp USA. So Diamond is about 90% US.
I still maintain that Yank and Bossco are the only 2 100% American dogs competing. Luckily for me Geoff has kindly consented to run "Bossco" for me. With Geoff's awesome national record I'm sure "Bossco" will be given every chance.I am lucky to have such a great friend
Chief batman
I hope you got the pictures I sent you. Please feel free to post them up on this board if you like. I will send you some more
 

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Well OK, then. Thanks for the confirmation. I did think Yank was the only imported US labrador running in retrieving trials in Australia.

He's a good boy. My only negative, is that he eats like a damm horse.

Hope he is "good" during his tests.
 

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I saw Yanks picture in Ramblinmaxxs' website.Dang we have nice lookin' dogs in America!
Oh no, now you are going to give Julie a big head!!! Yank is the ugliest dog ever and I think Julie should send him back to me and end her suffering.....

Don't think that's going to work, but worth a try. ;)

All I did was keep him round until he got all his tests done and was old enough to ship - he was a typical young lab, my worst chewer, but we survived ;)

I know Bullet misses his playmate.....Flash is such a bore.

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Well OK, then. Thanks for the confirmation. I did think Yank was the only imported US labrador running in retrieving trials in Australia.
Julie
yank is the only imported US dog running in Australia. My point was that yank and Bossco are the only 2 100% US dogs ever to run in Australia. Bossco is by watermarks the BossX a fully imported misty morning woody bitch
As I write this Bossco is having his first competitive trial. I can't wait to ring Geoff and see how he went
Go the U.S.A dogs
 
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