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I've raised 4 puppies in last 2 years and this one has me baffled.

12wk old can sleep 10pm to 6am without a problem, but can't go from 7:30-11am without peeing in crate. At lunch, she will go outside and potty, but pee's again in crate from 12:30 to 3:30 when daughter gets home from school.

See is fed in morning, but water is very limited. (this morning none)

The amount in crate is very small but still get's her wet. The crate is small also. She can not stand at full height.

Do I go to even smaller crate? Thanks Warren, forgot to mention $144 later no UTI everything normal.

It's like she gets out and starts hunting worms or playing and forgets to take care of business

Baffled in Arkansas....at least about the puppy, but not about the coach.
 

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I've raised 4 puppies in last 2 years and this one has me baffled.

12wk old can sleep 10pm to 6am without a problem, but can't go from 7:30-11am without peeing in crate. At lunch, she will go outside and potty, but pee's again in crate from 12:30 to 3:30 when daughter gets home from school.

See is fed in morning, but water is very limited. (this morning none)

The amount in crate is very small but still get's her wet. The crate is small also. She can not stand at full height.

Do I go to even smaller crate?

Baffled in Arkansas....at least about the puppy, but not about the coach.
UTI? wouldnt hurt to have it checked if she's being a little hard to break.
 

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12 wk old female. What's the pedigree look like?
 

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I've been there with my 1 yr old choc girl, it was soooo frustrating and unfortunately I just had to let her outgrow it... it took about 6 months before it stopped. Lots of bath's paper towels and cleaning... I hope you find the answer.
 

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Male , only took a few weeks, My female took close to a year or more, some of litter was trained at 8 weeks. Cleaned up puke last night. But it was by the back door
 

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I kept a female chessy pup for a friend. She was 7 wks when I picked her up and almost 12 when he got her. I found her extremely frustrating to house break. I would put her out and she would come right in the house and pee. It was as you mentioned she would get playing and exploring and forget why she was outside. If I stayed right with her and kept reminding her to get busy she was fine. I think the problem is now solved.
 

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My yellow female was clean here at the house. wet to trainer and started this. she keep doing it for a little while after we got her back. but now she is clean no matter wher you leave her.
 

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Bring her to Enid for the SRS in 2 weeks and I'll take her off your hands.
Somehow I knew you were going there. Must be a Texarkana thing
 

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No two pups train exactly the same way. I've raised many as a breeder. In my experience, male/female - no difference in crate training. It's more about the individual temperament. Staying dry at night when asleep, but not when she's awake would just indicate to me that she's more excitable than some others. You just need to air her more frequently during the day, and don't let her back in the house until you know she's done what she needs to do. It's better to avoid the accidents than to try to "condition" her to hold it longer at this age. If you continue to have her urinate in her crate, you stand a risk of her getting accustomed to doing that, and then you have to untrain her from thinking a wet crate is okay.

Be dilligent about avoiding the accidents. She will outgrow the need for frequency. Be patient!
 

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I also think it sounds like she is excitable and gets distracted, probably forgetting why she is outside. I would put her on a long retractable lead and take her to the same spot in the yard. Tell her to take a pee, or poo, or whatever name you want to give it. Praise her when she does. Then back in the house and in the crate. You may have to do this more often with her initially than other pups you've had. She will eventually get it.
 

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Hey Jeff,

The males dont seem to have this problem.....i've got 3!! However, I will say give her some time. In my experience, the females ALWAYS take longer to potty train than the males...I don't know why. I just accept it for being what it is and make sure I am putting forth the effort!! I know you are doing the same! Has she seen pigeons yet?? Mine are crazy for them!!
 

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Hey Jeff,

The males dont seem to have this problem.....i've got 3!! However, I will say give her some time. In my experience, the females ALWAYS take longer to potty train than the males...I don't know why. I just accept it for being what it is and make sure I am putting forth the effort!! I know you are doing the same! Has she seen pigeons yet?? Mine are crazy for them!!
Pigeons....she's chasing down robins that mistakenly light in the yard...but of course she hasn't caught one yet.

She is a retrieving machine and definately an alpha which we are working with.

Jeff
 

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I haven't personally had this problem(Newbie) but my girlfriend brought a rescue dog home from the shelter at 10 weeks old. Her puppy did the same thing till she was 4 months. She pretty well knew when she was inside the house but out of her crate that she needed to do her business outside. She started cutting the potty training pads in half and sticking one in there with Jesse when she would leave. She did it for a week or so and forgot to put one in one morning but left the old one laying right next to it. When Abby got home she let Jesse out, she ran right to the pad and did her business on it. Abby moved the pad further from the kennel until Jesse got it under control.

Don't know if that will help at all. Have you tried making the kennel as dark as possible during the day?
 

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Put her on a leash and remind her what she is outside for when she gets distracted. Make sure she does her business before you bring her back in the house.
 

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Put her on a leash and remind her what she is outside for when she gets distracted. Make sure she does her business before you bring her back in the house.
Definately working with this...she wants to play play play, but eventually gets business done.

Went home at 10:00 hoping to catch her before, but I was too late.

We'll get it worked out or she will find herself outside in the kennel run.
 

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Put her on a leash and remind her what she is outside for when she gets distracted. Make sure she does her business before you bring her back in the house.
This works. Also, are you using a cue word? I started using "bathroom" whenever mine would go and he has now learned that when the command is "Kennel, bathroom" that we are on a business trip.

Good luck. I know it can be frustrating.
 
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