[MooseGooser]

The eyes on my head are side by side! I dont get how you guys shoot over udders! I have a couple, butI hold them sideways when I shoot! Here is a classic American made Jack handel SXS Winchester 21 my babay! Flinch's favorite gun.. Not Upland birds, but I got em jump shootin an irrigation ditch.. So,, kinda a "sit" to flush.. I call this pic, a "Double" and a "Brace"..

 

[MooseGooser]

Bottom eject Ithacas, send hot brass down my baggy shorts!

 

[MooseGooser]

21 again! Planted Chuckers! Gasp! I was asked back however,, but for only 1 more time.... I think it was because it was my turn to buy doughnuts!!

 

[MooseGooser]

GASP!!! More poultry!! I only have 1 front tooth now.. old picture..

 

[MooseGooser]

Mornings limit of wild birds with the yellow huntin fool! Outa control maniac..
No pictureof gun,,,, Lowly jethro'd 870 wingmaster!

 

[MooseGooser]

Model 12 skeet, with a classic CLUTTS Compensator on the end of barrel! I NEVER get asked back if I bring this gun..

 

[MooseGooser]

Model 12 20 ga skeet ,,CLUTTS Compensator on this barrel too!

 

[MooseGooser]

My duck boat

 

[MooseGooser]

That Yeller dog, and that boat. is what caused the accident,,,, It how I lost all my guns! Theys at the bottom of a lake! The dang dog wouldnt "Sit" BASICS BASICS BASICS! Ever last one of em!!!

 

[crackerd]

Spaniel guys use "hup" as a change direction/come in to let the dogs know where they (the handler) are, so the dog knows how far away is ok.

"Hup!" is spanielese for sit, and don't budge an iota until told otherwise - "Hup!" is the fundamental training command for spaniels as "sit' is to retrievers.

MG

 

[Mark Littlejohn]

My 20ga Ithaca pawn shop special. Had to strip off purple paint and refinish the stock and foreend.

 

[Mark Littlejohn]

"Hup!" is spanielese for sit, and don't budge an iota until told otherwise - "Hup!" is the fundamental training command for spaniels as "sit' is to retrievers.

MG

I stand (sit?) corrected. I used a small whistle and not "hup" with my springer.

 

[dr_dog_guy]

I have a Model 23 that I haven't tried out yet, but always found the 21s to be on the heavy side for a field gun. I do have a 20 ga Ithaca, made the year my dad was born, that I like. And a 16 and 20 ga of the Ithaca Classic Doubles, which was Steve Lamboy's short-lived company that licensed the Ithaca patent. But push comes to shove, I'll grab that FAIR 16 ga or a plain old Citori 20 ga Feather Lightening. I've got a 28 ga barrel for the Citori, too. I just shoot the O/Us better

 

[MooseGooser]

I have a Model 23 that I haven't tried out yet, but always found the 21s to be on the heavy side for a field gun. I do have a 20 ga Ithaca, made the year my dad was born, that I like. And a 16 and 20 ga of the Ithaca Classic Doubles, which was Steve Lamboy's short-lived company that licensed the Ithaca patent. But push comes to shove, I'll grab that FAIR 16 ga or a plain old Citori 20 ga Feather Lightening. I've got a 28 ga barrel for the Citori, too. I just shoot the O/Us better

The 21's are heavy,, BUT,, If you get stuck in snow or mud, or have a flat tire,, and ya got a high lift truck jack,, them 21 barrels make a great heavy duty jack handel! Its much better than the cheepie harbor freight handel that comes with their jack! I'll say this.. I aint stoppin my swing with my 21! In fact,, I almost spin a circle!!

 

[MooseGooser]

I dont carry it far! Flinch drives the truck down the ditch,, (BASICS) I shoot from the bed!! ya have to play the cards yer dealt!

 

[MooseGooser]

I shot the winders out,, shootin from the cab!

 

[dr_dog_guy]

So how the heck did you teach Flinch how to use a clutch?

 

[Cold Iron]

The eyes on my head are side by side! I dont get how you guys shoot over udders! I have a couple, butI hold them sideways when I shoot! Here is a classic American made Jack handel SXS Winchester 21 my babay! Flinch's favorite gun.. Not Upland birds, but I got em jump shootin an irrigation ditch.. So,, kinda a "sit" to flush.. I call this pic, a "Double" and a "Brace"..
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Rut Ro! Your 21 is missing a trigger- quick get a refund!

Just kidding 3 out of my 4 SxS guns have single triggers. Double triggers are a pain with gloves in the cold. But do have their place IMO.

I have a Model 23 that I haven't tried out yet, but always found the 21s to be on the heavy side for a field gun. I do have a 20 ga Ithaca, made the year my dad was born, that I like. And a 16 and 20 ga of the Ithaca Classic Doubles, which was Steve Lamboy's short-lived company that licensed the Ithaca patent. But push comes to shove, I'll grab that FAIR 16 ga or a plain old Citori 20 ga Feather Lightening. I've got a 28 ga barrel for the Citori, too. I just shoot the O/Us better

OK now my turn to be jealous. Both a 16 and 20 from Ithaca Classic Doubles?! One of these days I will end up with a NID in 16 when the right one comes along and has modern dimensions. Doubt I will ever end up with one of Steve Lamboy's guns. As mentioned I am rather fond of Ithaca's. And Tollers. And grouse.

Now have all 4 Gun Dog magazines with Tollers on the cover over the years. But an NID would be icing on the cake.

I have a M23 and agree the M21 is heavy for the field. And so is the M23. Mine is 28" 20 ga. and used it a lot on clays for a few years, shoot it as well as my B. Rizzini and Berretta target guns..

Left is a first year M21 with double triggers restored by Turnbull and custom stocked by Weing. Middle is restocked and restored M21, he has a 15.5" LOP which is why it is so tall. And my M23. AyA #2 in 16 ga. sitting in the back of my buggy. After getting the buggy couldn't afford a M21 LOL.

But in addition to sporting clays use it for grouse hunting and don't miss beating the heck out of my truck getting back into good cover. Built a dog box for it.

When Pacific Sporting Arms came out with the Dickinson Sporter picked up a 12 and put an ISIS recoil pad. If I am shooting a 12 I am using all the lead I can and shoot enough that I have to be careful to not start getting the yips again.

Like it enough that I picked up a 20 ga. With 30" bbls.

You should try out that M23, I really like mine.

 

[KwickLabs]

Well, the topic changed (quite a bit), but if the OP is interested, there are several topics on upland training that can be "sifted" out of the following link.

Articles written by Butch Goodwin and published in Retriever Journal.

 

[camhabib]

Well, the topic changed (quite a bit), but if the OP is interested, there are several topics on upland training that can be "sifted" out of the following link.

Articles written by Butch Goodwin and published in Retriever Journal.

Interested in any and all help I can get!

Sad to see so little love for a nice O/U. Feel like mine would look like a spaceship to many on here.