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Don, try "Theraband" tubing. I made my own wingers which are about 40" high and used the silver tubing, Bumpers go 30+ yards. dokkens about 25 and duck a little less. I stretch them to about 350 %. Real nice arc. I got 100 feet delevered to my house for about $60. You can buy smaller amount just to try it. At 50 cents a foot its worth a try. I got it from these guys.


http://www.fmcmedicalrehab.com/cgi-...Product_Code=10068F&Category_Code=EXTREATMENT
 

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I purchased 100ft of the grey thera-band tubing to replace the tubing on my GU wingers. I've been using it now for about 2 months and it throws the birds exactly like the original tubing and still looks brand new. Purchased it off e-bay for around 60 bucks.
 

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I just changed my tubing on my Gunners up launchers.
I bought from this place for bulk tubing. Type in 5234k73 for product.
http://www.mcmaster.com/
 
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