[Chris Atkinson]

*Update: Results came back recently Edited 8/7/2006 *



I was contacted by someone who wants to remain anonymous. He asked if I would post these up for a poll. Both images are for the same retriever, a Golden male, 25 or 26 months of age.

The sender is hoping that this does not turn into a whizzing match somehow. I can't see how or why it should, but dog trainers can be an opinionated lot. Please feel free to give your thoughts.

Note, this is OFA and the sender wanted it to be kept simple...pass or fail. And of course, feel free to enter comments.

 

[FOM]

Is the top picture just a close up of the bottom x-ray? I've been taught to take a look at the knees to ensure proper alignment....

EDITED by Chris...Yes, same image, just a close-up

BTW I lean toward Fail.

FOM

 

[Lisa Van Loo]

Pass the right hip, fail the left.

How's that for splitting 'er right down the middle?

Lisa

 

[FOM]

FYI: http://www.offa.org/hipgrade.html

FOM

 

[Guest]

I don't know pass or fail, but it looks like the heads are flattened? And it looks like there may be some laxity.

Radiographs are so ridiculously hard to read if you're not a specialist...

This dog looks like it's in very good condition. very muscular...

-K

 

[FOM]

Pass the right hip, fail the left.

How's that for splitting 'er right down the middle?

Lisa

Lisa,

Dumb comment as I'm sure you are reading left and right correctly - but to clarify for others the right hip is the one on the left of the image and vise-a-versa for the other hip.....assuming the xrays are scanned in the correct way as they don't look like digital versions.

FOM

 

[EdA]

good positioning, no evidence of DJD, good coverage of the femoral had by the acetabular line, defintely should pass, OFA Good

 

[Bob Gutermuth]

It would help if the dog was positioned better, it appears that the hips are not parallel and straight. The hip on the left appears to have a shallow socket and a short neck.

 

[Jerry]

I'm in Ed's camp. Not excellent, but good.

Pass

Jerry

 

[Lisa Van Loo]

good positioning, no evidence of DJD, good coverage of the femoral had by the acetabular line, defintely should pass, OFA Good

This is an Amateur Stake, Ed.

the right hip is the one on the left of the image and vise-a-versa for the other hip

Correct. Also, the left hip *appears* to be pulled out a bit further than the right one. I'd bet my lunch the person pulling the legs down is right-handed.

Lisa

 

[Swampcollie]

Pass

Probably good.

 

[mcderrylabs]

Rate these hips

Good

 

[Buzz]

Interesting article about hip x-rays.

http://www.leerburg.com/hipart.htm

 

[Eric Johnson]

Positioning could be better (even or level) but the hips pass.

Eric

 

[Guest]

At some point are we going to get more details on what the story is? Even very vague ones?

 

[Chris Atkinson]

At some point are we going to get more details on what the story is? Even very vague ones?

Not to my knowledge.... As far as I know, this is what it is.

I had it asked of me in advance and I spent all of about a minute trying to find out what could be good, bad, wrong or whatever and decided that this sort of subject matter may be educational or at least worthy of some discuussion.

I know the submitter is very sensitive to ancestors, breeders, vets, friends, etc. and therefore is wanting to only give the breed, gender and age for specifics...nothing more.

Maybe she (or he) will let us know the OFA's findings down the road...not sure.

Chris

 

[SueLab]

My only comment is that it doesn't look like the ball is deeply inbedded in the socket OR on the other hand, the socket looks shallow...comments from a non vet to be taken as a grain of salt...

 

[Bobby Lindsay]

Fair at best could go Mild. Probably will NOT pass

 

[Paula H]

I agree - sockets look a bit shallow.

That being said - I had a similar set come back OFA Good, and one I thought would pass (and my vet did too) failed.

This is why medicine is an art.

 

[achiro]

I agree - sockets look a bit shallow.

That being said - I had a similar set come back OFA Good, and one I thought would pass (and my vet did too) failed.

This is why OFA sometimes sucks!

Fixed that for ya :wink: