Lainee, I agree that it is possable to use it safely but most don't.FOM said:bert,
None, zero, zilch. Proper application of a choke chain is important. Its a quick snap, not a pull. Its also an upward movement, not a backwards movement. Its a quick pop, not a long drawn out pull. Application of any training tool is only as affective as the person using it!!
By that time they are CCd and niether is neccesary.Emily Faith said:I like to start with a choke chain and, if I find I am having to continually apply a lot of force on that type of collar, I switch to a pinch. I switch back to a choke later though. I think a lot of young dogs get used to having those prongs there and when they aren't there, they think it's a signal that they can behave like a wild indian.
That's my point. Its just like with e-collars. Granted e-collars do not tend to cause physical harm like a choke chain do, I would say more emotional truama is caused with improper use. So do we get rid of them as effective tools? No. Train the trainer. Spend the little extra money to go to a class, work with a Pro, its an investment worth making.I agree that it is possable to use it safely but most don't.
Do you mean loose dragging a leash or while joggig?I've never tried the pinch collar. Can you let the dog run with it on with a short lead?