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Dog still won't eat, vets can't figure it out either. **Update - he's eating!**

i had originally posted about this last fall

http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78032


well, the problem still continues, unless i change his food every couple days, or change up what kind of soft food i mix in, he will not eat. and i'm talking, he has gone up to 6 days without touching his food. yet he still will run and act normal outside, gets excited for people over, etc.

hes now down to about 69 pounds(always maintained at 79-81 lbs) and starting to lose muscle mass.

i've had him to two different vets, both well recommended, and have had every test run on him that i can, they cannot find anything medically wrong with him. the last vet said it may be a psychologic disorder of some point, since we have our first child in the house, even though its been a year now.

he will sometimes eat ok for a couple days on his own, and then the only way i can get him to eat is by hand feeding him 1 kernel at a time, otherwise he will turn his nose away.

i've done the feeding pattern someone recommended on here, with giving him a short time to eat, and if he does not finish it, cut the next meal in half, etc. he simply just won't eat, and will go 6-7 days without eating.

exercise does not change anything either. last sunday, i had him out on the river with me, it was 8+ hours of him running on the islands, swimming, retrieving, chasing critters etc. I figured for sure he would eat that night - Nope, didn't touch his food at all, wouldn't even eat one piece.

he literally is wasting away before my eyes, and nobody can figure out whats wrong with him. it is embarrassing to take him on walks in the neighborhood because of all the looks and comments from people. you can see his entire rib cage, most of his spine, shoulders and hip bones, etc. he is actually getting "gross" and looks like something you see on those humane society commercials.

why would he starve himself like this?
 

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Will he eat table scraps? If he has, then try a raw diet, buy some chicken necks and thighs. Uncooked chicken will not harm him they can have bones and all give it a try. If he eats then this will be his diet and its better for him. Good luck.
 

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Have you tried a stomach coating medicine? Have you tried a round of amoxi in case he has an ulcer?
Dogs are like people, if it hurts they won't eat.
Carbon got down to 70 pounds. I put him on Amoxi, used pepcid Ac and a stomach coating medicine, all carefully times. I mixed baby cereal in there for calories.
Other than that I would head for a specialist.
 

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Did you consider a food allergy and try the expensive food from the vet for food allergies? Had to go that way with one one my old labs. Worked when nothing else did. Same symtoms you are reporting.
 

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You wrote in your original post

but, i picked up some pro-plan shredded blend, to see if he would eat that, just to try something different. because with his lack of eating (went 3 days one time), and illness, he was losing weight. he loved the pro-plan, ate it always.
Have u been feeding him this??
 

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Have u been feeding him this??
Go back to what he would eat. Obviously the best food or what YOU think is best does him no good if he won't eat it. If he is on the Diamond, he probably doesn't like it for some reason. My dogs didn't like Diamond. Have you had his anal glands checked? I had a dog that wasted away and was bred and she wouldn't eat. Oddly enough it turned out she had anal glands that hurt and as soon as they were evacuated, she started eating again. She did associate the pain with food, very unusual, but it happened.
 

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Have you tried a stomach coating medicine? Have you tried a round of amoxi in case he has an ulcer?
Dogs are like people, if it hurts they won't eat.
Carbon got down to 70 pounds. I put him on Amoxi, used pepcid Ac and a stomach coating medicine, all carefully times. I mixed baby cereal in there for calories.
Other than that I would head for a specialist.

yes, we tried for that also. vet gave me two meds and had me give him pepcid. i was giving him 3 pills, twice a day for a week - made no difference.
 

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I'm sorry, it's terribly frustrating, isn't it? You care for your dog, are willing to give them the best, and want to be proud of them. And it isn't enough, and they go around looking like abused orphans. Been there, still not far from it.

Jake, our dog that I mentioned in your previous post, got so bad last winter after 7-8 months of "tough love" with his food (put it down, give him 15 minutes, then take it away) that he was down to 65 pounds. And this is a 26+ inch male chessie, he ought to weigh 75-80 pounds at least. He also never grew a winter coat. Then he had an episode of pooping blood while out hunting, scared us to death.

Vet has us put him back on bland food (boiled chicken and rice) for a couple of days. At least he ate that, LOL. She wondered if he had a food allergy, so we gradually put him on raw roughly ground elk and Sojos. On my own, I researched the internet and found an intestinal support supplement called Gastriplex. He seemed to finally get turned around, was eating up to 12 cups a DAY for a couple of weeks. After a month or so the processor ran out of elk and we had to switch to beef, but he seemed to tolerate that o.k. He's tapered off to 6 cups a day of the beef/Sojos mixture and has gained 10 pounds. He's still fairly lean looking at 75 pounds, but you can't see any bones and he's actually getting his coat back. He also has muscles, energy, and looks happy again.

Not sure if this will work for you, and I still don't know how much is the diet change, how much is the supplement, and how much is coincidence, but we're all a lot happier. If you're reluctant to try raw, the Sojos approach is based on ground instead of whole raw pieces, so it's a little easier to deal with (and you don't have to worry about the eating of bones, which bothered me a lot.) I also think there was a psychological component to the problem. I still put the food down and pretend to ignore him, as hovering seems to make him quit eating sooner. Just have to make sure the other dog doesn't get his food, LOL. Oh yeah, having another dog in the house has also helped, sometimes I think he eats it just so she can't have it :)
 

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Where are you storing your food? Do you keep it in the original bag? Sometimes if you put the food in a different container, it will get a sour smell or taste from that container.
 

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How awful to go through! I think I would be trying the raw suggestion right now. A quick trip to the grocery to buy one of those giant packs of frozen chicken pieces.
 

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Sorry for your troubles. Yeah, I would give raw a try. Mix in some sardines. If he passes on all that, something is certainly wrong.
 

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I cooked up some chicken breast for him, he eats that fine, and also put some leftover chicken noodle soup over his dry food, and then he ate his dry food. So its not like he wont eat any food at all, just his plain dog food.
 

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Had the same trouble with my dog. Did a raw egg a day over dry dog food for about a week. And now for the first time ever she has an appetite and is back to eating dry food without the egg.Worked for me, have no idea why.
 

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When I put the cut up chicken breast in with his dry food, he actually will sort the dry food out and spit it back out, just eating the meat
 

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i had originally posted about this last fall

http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78032


well, the problem still continues, unless i change his food every couple days, or change up what kind of soft food i mix in, he will not eat. and i'm talking, he has gone up to 6 days without touching his food. yet he still will run and act normal outside, gets excited for people over, etc.

hes now down to about 69 pounds(always maintained at 79-81 lbs) and starting to lose muscle mass.

i've had him to two different vets, both well recommended, and have had every test run on him that i can, they cannot find anything medically wrong with him. the last vet said it may be a psychologic disorder of some point, since we have our first child in the house, even though its been a year now.

he will sometimes eat ok for a couple days on his own, and then the only way i can get him to eat is by hand feeding him 1 kernel at a time, otherwise he will turn his nose away.

i've done the feeding pattern someone recommended on here, with giving him a short time to eat, and if he does not finish it, cut the next meal in half, etc. he simply just won't eat, and will go 6-7 days without eating.

exercise does not change anything either. last sunday, i had him out on the river with me, it was 8+ hours of him running on the islands, swimming, retrieving, chasing critters etc. I figured for sure he would eat that night - Nope, didn't touch his food at all, wouldn't even eat one piece.

he literally is wasting away before my eyes, and nobody can figure out whats wrong with him. it is embarrassing to take him on walks in the neighborhood because of all the looks and comments from people. you can see his entire rib cage, most of his spine, shoulders and hip bones, etc. he is actually getting "gross" and looks like something you see on those humane society commercials.

why would he starve himself like this?
OK this is gonna sound a bit crazy however it worked for us.
Start with some scrambled eggs (use water not milk) and add low fat cottage cheese, hand fed.
After a bit get rid of the eggs and slowly mix the lowfat cottage cheese with kibble increasing the kibble at each meal and reducing the cottage cheese.
I spent thousands trying to figure out why one of my labs suddenly would not eat. All we ever came up with was that he got an upset tummy, and then ended up with an empty stomach issue where there was just bile and everything turned his stomach. Some how low fat cottage cheese settled ok.
Of course he was the one out of 4 labs that did not need to loose even a pound.
 

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Oh, and he eats milk bones just fine.

I'm convinced my dog needs to be put on meds for his head...
 

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Oh, and he eats milk bones just fine.

I'm convinced my dog needs to be put on meds for his head...

Is it possible that the kibble you are giving him is just too rich for his system and he knows it?

When we tried to switch one of ours to a higher protien/ fat food because he was hard to keep weight on, no matter what brand we tried to switch him to by the time we reached the 50/50 mix in switch over he would refuse to eat the higher protien/fat food. He would grab a mouthful of the food, and spit it out on the floor. Then he would pick out the lower protien/fat food and eat that only. NOthing wrong with the other kibble as our other 3 labs would all eat it. I finally gave up and whenever he starts getting too thin I just have to give him a lunch as well as breakfast and dinner.
 
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