This a poll for people that have acquired 5 or more Labs over the last 10 or so years
That's about all I know about it too. Sure scares the heck out of you when it comes on. I have seen it in one dog that I owned and in a clients dog. It seemed to occur after a fast, high level of activity. Dog was oblivious to the over exertion. Once it happened we monitored the dogs acitivity and quit early. Especially playing with the kids and pheasant hunting.Mr Booty said:EIC is one of those things, like epilepsy, that is not easily diagnosed, or even defined. A lot of things can cause a dog to collapse. Some of those things are hereditary, some aren't. If you've ruled out all the things that can cause a dog to collapse, then what you have left is EIC. At this point, whenther it is hereditary or not is still up in the air, although it does seem (or perhaps predisposing conditions) to run in families. It's really too early to make assumptions about carriers, etc., since mode of inheritance (or even IF it is inherited) has not been determined.
Just for your edification, no matter what the condition, it's ALWAYS the most well-known animal on a pedigree that gets blamed. Human nature at work again, I fear!
This is an old post from Lisa Van Loo.
The dogs I have seen then may not have EIC but have something other type of going down because are not "very alert" when they collapse, it was stress mediated (coming off line, coming back after repeating a big triple in training with handles) but in sweatshirt weather, but also during pheasant hunting with all that scent and excitement. Maybe they just go down. That's the problem with naming names until we know for sure that they do indeed have EIC by some type of testing and not some form of heat exhaustion.Russ said:The dog is very alert, but the muscles stop working. In my dog?s first episode, he tried to drag himself to the mark with his front legs after the back legs gave out. The recovery is very fast.
While these dogs tend to be hyperactive, Dr. Taylor has not been able to find a correlation with high adrenalin levels and EIC. I have heard Dr Gillette at Auburn has pursued this avenue but have not seen any publication on his research. Dr Taylor?s current theory is that EIC is a metabolic problem at the brain and cell level.
I, personally, do not think stress is a factor.
Actually, they are seeing a similar response in hgh strung agility contenders such as border collies, so I will respectfully disagree with you on this point.Russ said:I First let us get it straight that EIC is genetic. It is not found in Jack Russell Terriers, Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, Golden Retrievers, etc. It is only found in Labs.
I agree 100 percent with this statement. Any and all genetic defect's should be disclosed. I can assure you that any pup/dog that I look at buying I will be asking a ton of genetic questions, not just of the seller but from some very knowledgeable other people. As for maybe's and could be's about genetic defects, I will take those as well to make my decisions.WRL said:To sweep any such genetic defect under the rug does an injustice to the "unknowing" buyer. While no one wants to "out" a dog, nor spread unjustified rumors, smart breeding needs to take place and without full disclosure this cannot happen.