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In your opinion which one does better in venues like SRS, HRC grand and Master National.
 

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The one that is trained properly...don't think there is a difference. You can push a dog too fast and regardless of their gender they can burn bright one minute and crash and burn the next. The best approach is to choose a breeding you like, get a pup and train that pup to based on what is best for that individual pup - there is no magical timeline you have to follow.
 

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If you did a search on all the titled dogs male and female I bet it would be a 60-40 plit. Males bieng dominate in this. I personaly find that both dogs capable of doing all levels of training, that bieng said I don't care as long as they have what it takes to compete.

To the question. My opinion is that a male is easier to train. Therefore easier to get titled. And that is an opinoin. Kind of like butts everybody's got one.
 

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You need to consider this with training and entering a female into an event ... her seasons which mean mood swings due to hormone changes (i.e. being downright goofy or brain dead). And not being allowed to enter and run an event because they are in season.

Because seasons will knock a female out of competition for weeks and because there are mood swings before and after, there aren't as many titled bitches as there are males.

If you have a bitch who comes in season like clockwork every 6 to 7 months, it's a real challenge getting in enough trials to even have the opportunity to title.

I don't know how many bitches a year get their FC or AFC titles, but I am guessing far less than males. How many bitches get FC/AFC titles? Not many for sure.

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Training wise (personal observation), Initially girls progress much faster than the boys, then the boys catch up. Usually around 1-1.5 year of age. When girls start to go into season, and hormones, start entering the equation. Some trainers do better with one sex than another. Still it is much easier to campaign and run male dogs, just from the stand point that you don't lose a 1mt of running for every 7. I personally think females are smarter, they are more challenging to train, they just get things quicker. Of course they have they're own mind about doing those things, where-as the boys go out of their way to please ;).
 

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In your opinion which one does better in venues like SRS, HRC grand and Master National.
There are many, many fine bitches running all the venues that you listed and field trials.
My experience with females and I have trained many, they learn quickly, have a strong sense of loyalty, you have to make then feel like they are the most important thing in your life, of course much like males depends on the breeding. As far as season go, I have had some that went as long as 23 months between and others like clockwork 6 plus months at a time. The best I have owned were "maley" types cock thier legs like a male, walk as they unrinate, scratch the ground etc. I owned and trained one alpha bitch (not considered maley) she was the ruler of the roost........ There are many out there that have been spayed and people run them because of the quality of the animal, not the gender. Some of these have gone on the the National level. As far as training the nicest FC/AFC I ever owned
would get really good just before she came in season. Others are just plain nuts when they come in and really get good as they come out, go figure. They can be unforgiving sometimes and you have work through it. My personal opinion is find the best breeding you can find, consider the gender, close your eyes and pick a pup. Please don't come up or buy into the concept if "she doesn't work out I can always breed her" there aren't too many old time brood bitches around that throw anything. Most of the good ones have done "something" and have titles of sorts no matter what venue.
 

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Depends on if they are black or chocolate....:wink:
 

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My experience with females and I have trained many, they learn quickly, have a strong sense of loyalty, you have to make then feel like they are the most important thing in your life
I think generally a female learns quicker and the bigger males may be slower to mature. A maley bitch at her peak can beat the boys. The problem is not all of them are like that and many are hormonal or their heats get in the way. I don't have too much patience with the "I'm having a bad hair day" ones. Sometimes I think the men get along with bitches better. I know I like the boys and I have more patience with them.
 

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Look At Zenyatta and Secretariat.....Who know's.... It's all up to the roll of the Dice, Genetics..Socialization, Mother Nature ...and YOU!!!!!
 

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Training wise (personal observation), Initially girls progress much faster than the boys, then the boys catch up. Usually around 1-1.5 year of age. When girls start to go into season, and hormones, start entering the equation. Some trainers do better with one sex than another. Still it is much easier to campaign and run male dogs, just from the stand point that you don't lose a 1mt of running for every 7. I personally think females are smarter, they are more challenging to train, they just get things quicker. Of course they have they're own mind about doing those things, where-as the boys go out of their way to please ;).
Not sure if I think females are smarter. I do agree they seem to mature quicker and progress through training a little faster initially, and yes, they can be a challenge, but the boys soon catch up. In all fairness it depends on the dog, breeding, training...but my males are all business in the field once they develop. I also have males that are real "thinkers" but independent. I really think my females perform and hunt for me or to please as you said. Whereas my males appear to do it for themselves!
 

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I think that it depends on the trainer's personality.
Can you train females(what is your patience like?)
Males can you wait for them to grow up some?
Size issues, females tend to be smaller in size.......
Like Nancy, I have zero patience with bitches that are moody and non-forgiving, (Scarlett O"Hara type bitches)
But the good ones as Earl pointed out are dam good.
They do mature quicker and that bitchness they posses??? May give them that edge over the boys.
Food for thought;-)
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I think the females learn more quickly than the males up to a point. At that point, they are equivalent.

There is an old saying that it is easier to get a good male than a good female, but nothing beats a great female.

I have had male and female. I have titled male and female. I like them both equally.

 

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I tend to use more fowl language with the males I have had in the past!!

I try and be polite and hold the door fer my girls...

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There are many, many fine bitches running all the venues that you listed and field trials.
My experience with females and I have trained many, they learn quickly, have a strong sense of loyalty, you have to make then feel like they are the most important thing in your life, of course much like males depends on the breeding. As far as season go, I have had some that went as long as 23 months between and others like clockwork 6 plus months at a time. The best I have owned were "maley" types cock thier legs like a male, walk as they unrinate, scratch the ground etc. I owned and trained one alpha bitch (not considered maley) she was the ruler of the roost........ There are many out there that have been spayed and people run them because of the quality of the animal, not the gender. Some of these have gone on the the National level. As far as training the nicest FC/AFC I ever owned
would get really good just before she came in season. Others are just plain nuts when they come in and really get good as they come out, go figure. They can be unforgiving sometimes and you have work through it. My personal opinion is find the best breeding you can find, consider the gender, close your eyes and pick a pup. Please don't come up or buy into the concept if "she doesn't work out I can always breed her" there aren't too many old time brood bitches around that throw anything. Most of the good ones have done "something" and have titles of sorts no matter what venue.
Great write up, I enjoyed reading it and I agree 100%.

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My little fixed female is running with a bunch of boys that started in the same class... about the same age, all started and still run by the same pro. The boys all went through a prolonged goofy teen-ager thing. For some it's been going on long enough the owners are about to do the big snip.

Maybe I feel there's a little "what if" about breeding her, but her lineage is in the hands of an excellent breeder, and those genes are being carried forward.

Unless you are SURE you want to breed them, I don't understand why more people don't fix their females to avoid the mood swings.
 

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Bloodlines, Bloodlines, Bloodlines; demeaner, demeaner
demeaner; tractability, tractability, tractability are important
basic factors if present in the right degrees result in out-
standing animals whether females or males. The element
of maturity - at an early age - and the innate perception
of the owner/trainer is a subtlety that determines early
training but also how the training is done - female or male.

Thinking about the young dogs that I held the book on -
Lottie at 27 months, Showthyme at 23 months, River Oaks
Black Bingo at 23 months, Royal Oaks Soups On at 23 months -
male or female they all exhibited identical traits/qualities
as older animals like Bigstone Flint, Corky, Holway Barty,
Wanapum Dart's Dandy, Ebony Argonaut, Kannon Ball Kate,
San Joaquin Honcho, Machipongo's Nappy, Baa Baa's Black
Sheep, Crook's Pork and Beans.

All had great desire, all had great concentration/focus,
all were very stylish, all separated themselves from the
crowd - clearly.

The experience watching Lottie at 27 months set the bar
extremely high. Watching her at the Shelby County Penal
Farm October 1989 she wasn't a male v. female - she was
a 'once in a lifetime animal'. One hell of a Retriever.

I told my co-judge after the trial ended he had just watched
and judged a future National Champion.

Well - I was wrong. Lottie went on to equal the great Shed
of Arden and Won 3 National Opens.

Bill Connor
 
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