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Florida vs Texas High School Football- What State Has the Better Football? GDG

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From: Dallas South News.
Story By R. Lamar Brooks, Photos by Byron Watters

Florida pretty much dominated a series of recent high school football games against Texas, winning 5 of 6 contests with three games being blowouts. The Abilene/Cocoa and Skyline/Glades Central games could have gone either way. And of course, the lone victory for Texas belonged to DeSoto in what DeSoto Head Coach Claude Mathis termed the “best high school football game I have ever been a part of.”
Upon further examination, the top teams in the lower classifications in Florida are capable of beating the larger classifications in Texas. An example of that was 2A Florida defending champs Cocoa knocking off Texas 5A kingpin Abilene and recently beating defending Mississippi 6A champs Olive Branch, 14-7. This is generally unthinkable in Texas, outside of 7-on-7 football.
As an aside, Florida has 8 classifications all the way up to 6A with Texas having 5 classifications through 5A (though the UIL governing body for Texas High Schools is leaning towards a 6A class soon).
In the Dallas South News Monster Game of the Week, Dallas Madison took on Miami Central as part of the Texas vs. Florida football showcase at DeSoto’s Ben Dial Athletic Complex. Madison Head Coach Ronald Johnson Described the game as as “a test for our players to see where they stand.”

Madison showed fight throughout, with it being evident that their skill position players including Eric Horsley, Jamon Brewers, and Marquise Smith can compete with any opponent in any classification. Overall, however, the 6A powerhouse, Miami Central team was just too strong of a challenger.
As is the trend in high school football these days, Central lines up 4 wide nearly every play and forces you to either put pressure on and sack the quarterback or succumb to their dizzying array of playmakers, who simply spread the field and…well….make plays. By the end of the 1st half, Miami Central had racked up 395 yards of offense and 23 first downs to Madison’s 173 yards of total offense.

The 2nd half would not be any kinder to Madison as their offense could only muster an additional 43 yards against the hard charging, speedy Central defense. In the end, Central would show a balanced attack with 28 runs and 25 passes for 508 yards of total offense to Madison’s 216.
DeSoto’s game against defending state champs Miramar was all that the event promoter C&B National Sports Marketing could have hoped for. Miramar’s defensive back Tracy Howard said “I can’t remember a game like this.”
DeSoto landed the first punch with a scintillating 86-yard opening kickoff return from the excellent Dontre Wilson, a sophomore whom will leave his mark on the DeSoto program for years to come. And just like that 7-0, DeSoto . Down 21-7 at the half, Miramar found their stride in the 2nd half and played what the team termed “Patriot football” to keep DeSoto from salting the game away.
Tied 35-35 going into overtime, DeSoto completed a 20-yard touchdown to WR DeMarcus Thompson from QB Ryan Polite to go up 42-35. Now with pressure squarely on their offense, Miramar’s WR Danel Harris scored on a 25-yard pass from QB Cameron Hudge on the team’s first play in overtime to creep to within a point, 42-41.
Coach Damon Cogdell had a decision to make and he opted to go for the jugular, lining up for a two point conversion. Central attempted a pass into the back of the end zone that was caught albeit out of bounds. And with that, DeSoto could finally exhale as they proved to be the one local team in the Texas vs. Florida series of games to overcome Florida’s penchant for winning on Texas soil in 2010.
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Texas easily. Florida might put out comparable talent, but kids from Texas come in ready to play the college game. High school football in Texas is on a completely different level than anything in Florida.
the arguments Pro Florida in this thread dont really match up with the original question. Florida has some very good football teams, no doubt. There's lots of talent in the state of Florida, no doubt. However, the make up of Florida football does not compare to how it is played in Texas. I'm sure Florida has a few power house programs that are run in a collegiate manner. I would be willing to bet that Florida has more HS head coaches teaching 4th period history. When college coaches come on recruiting visits to schools in Texas -- they head back to the coaches office in the offseason to speak with him. Football is his primary job, I'd bet that to be the case down to at least the 2A level.

The money poured into Texas football programs is on a different level than Florida. Look no further than Allen High Schools new football stadium that I think is opening this fall. I think someone touched on it..the Texas talent that won't sniff the D-I level is superior than the same talent in Florida. No one doubts the talent that the state of Florida can produce, but talent isn't football. Texas produces the finest football in the country from atmosphere, to coaching, to on the field play.

I give you Allen's stadium (these are a few months old, will get updated photos Memorial Day -- been stopping by every time i'm out that way)

and yes this will be sold out EVERY friday night...

I haven't driven around Florida looking at stadiums or programs, but I'm willing to put money not a program in the state has something like this going up right now.

Texas is High School Football
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You OK? I think you may have bumped your head.

THE SEC dominates the BCS.....Florida feeds more kids into the SEC than any other State........Nuff Said.

Now....Being a UGA Fan....I personally hate the place.

Also, let's look at the number of kids who went D-I from Texas and the number who went D-I from Florida --- then let's look at how many of those kids red shirted. I bet the stats would be interesting.
Head to head competition is the real measure. Yeah Texas throws a lot of money into facilities, stadiums, big staffs. But they get beat 5 of 6, blown out in three of them, they duck schools like De La Salle, Florida 7A and 8A, so on and so on. Bricks don't win games. I have yet to see see ONE real measure that Florida football is surpassed by Texas. Not one. And won't, because Florida has the best high school football in the country, Texas is #2. Everything points to Florida as tops. Texas has "Friday Night Lights", but in the Sunshine State it's lights out.
Florida has 6 programs that are lights out...big deal.

Texas has 161,200 players in the state -- Florida has 38,000

Florida has some of the top athletes in the country that's not to be denied. Texas sent 345 to D-I football
Florida sent 344 to D-I (but like I said, it'd be interesting to know how many of these kids red-shirt -- willing to put money on the fact that less Texas kids red shirt than Florida kids -- they go to the college game more prepared)

By shear volume alone Florida can't compete with the number of quality D-II athletes in the state. The depth of the programs in Texas is what makes Texas football better -- if you matched up every team in Florida with a team a comparable team in Texas, I bet Texas wins the head to head record in a landslide. There's few schools with the budgets to do such a thing, but aside from a few programs in Florida -- Texas runs away with it.
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Thanks for the D-1 numbers doesn't surprise me. Just like the NFL numbers Florida out paces Texas per capita once again. They prove the quality of players in Florida is higher. Any way you slice it Florida football is tops, Texas comes in at a respectable second. If you think your the best, prove it on the field. Florida has.
That's like saying:

10 people with $1,000,000
3 people with $500,000
2 people with $200,000
1 person wtih $75,000


adds up to more than

10 people with $1,000,000
8 people with $500,000
6 people with $200,000
4 people with $75,000
2 people with $25,000


how you make that happen is beyond me.
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Is the best argument now for Texas football is to speculate on red shirts? Nobody keeps stats on that, know why? Nobody cares. You're blowing smoke. Couldn't make a case with NFL stats, then there was D-1 stats. Same thing. Now it's more back peddling to D-2 and we got a greater total number players? Still more smoke. If that is the strongest case for Texas football? Then a reality check is in order.
If you want to take your on the surface view of Florida/Texas football and think Florida is better then by all means go for it. Start digging and you'll see that a more quality game is played in the state of Texas, which is what your OP asks. "Which state has better football??" --- The answer to that question is easily Texas.

Your original question has nothing to do with who puts out more/better talent --- who has more teams in the national top 10. Those statistics are going to vary from year to year. When you take a step back and look at the complete body of work and history, it's a different ball game. You want to evaluate the top level talent in Florida and completely ignore the middle and bottom talent then you aren't doing a true evaluation. That's like saying that the Jeep with the really nice paint job is a better jeep than the primer colored one sitting in the garage not even taking into consideration that the Jeep with the nice paint job has rust spots and mechanical issues that you can't see.

Texas is tops and there really is no competition.

Texas = more players = more talent (whether elite, good, or average), better coaching, better facilities, better fans, better history, better football
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Really? You offer your opinion that Texas has better football but offer zero evidence of that. "Texas is tops and really is no competition". But the facts speak otherwise. "No competition" beat "easily Texas" 5 out of 6 and blew them out in three. "No competition" also beat California's best De La Salle-twice, second time in a blow out. What did "easily Texas" teams do? Has "easily Texas" played De La Salle like Florida has what's the story there? Jeeps, steps back, history, paint jobs? Baloney. Where's the beef?
Again your talking about your paint job. I don't care what 5 teams in Florida are capable of doing. Those 5 teams aren't Florida High School football just like the 5 Texas teams they played aren't Texas High School football.

If you want to make an argument that Florida has more elite teams than Texas right now then you have a pretty good case. However, like I said that's a fluid statistic. Next year, those same teams could play and maybe Texas wins 5 of 6, or they split them --- either way it doesn't matter. As whole, Texas High School football is better than Florida because they have the money, the coaching, the fans, and the players-- simple as that. You get a more quality game week in and week out in the state of Texas than you do in the state of Florida.

Though I think its funny you're basing your argument off the fact that Florida's top teams are beating teams that are unranked in the state of Texas. I guess you have somewhat of a case with Abilene going down, but Any Given Friday a team can go down. 1 game is even worse a stat to use than these 6 games you've presented.
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Send a Florida team to beat Allen, Katy, Southlake Carrol or Euless Trinity at the 5A level or Denton Ryan, Lake Travis at 4A -- Those are certainly good Texas teams that Florida played, but they're definitely not the best. None of them even won the state championship, I dont believe.

5 of the top 20 players in the draft this year are from the state of Texas...Luck, Griffin, Tannehill, Wright, Brockers
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