FT and HT Retriever Strains?
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No.
Just an observation:
From reading the ads for puppies I see the responsible owners of dams finding the best sires that compliment that particular dog.
Looking at the same ads/pedigree I see very few HT dogs that have little or no FT stock in their respective pedigrees. Many FT dogs have HT MH dams in their pedigree.
My gut belief is that HT have widened the pool of good dams to breed the top sires to.
Joe Miano
Just an observation:
From reading the ads for puppies I see the responsible owners of dams finding the best sires that compliment that particular dog.
Looking at the same ads/pedigree I see very few HT dogs that have little or no FT stock in their respective pedigrees. Many FT dogs have HT MH dams in their pedigree.
My gut belief is that HT have widened the pool of good dams to breed the top sires to.
Joe Miano
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A split between HT and FT dogs? No, not very likely to happen.
I do believe that the division between conformation and field stock will continue to widen.
I do believe that the division between conformation and field stock will continue to widen.
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I agree NO as well. Take a look at the catalog from your last hunt test. How many of those dogs are out of FC or AFC sires. It's a pretty good percentage. Many of the popular HT titled sires are one generation from FT lines. Take a look at HRC's magazine--most of the advertised studs are 1 generation from trial dogs. Same holds true for the bitches as well.
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I voted NO as well. I think what I am afraid of is all the "backyard breeders", diluting the actual hunting/FT/HT lineage, but as long as we have responsible breeders, trainers, kennels and forums like this and other websites then the Retriever breeds will be okay, namely the Lab.
What I fear is Labs seeing the same fate as the cocker spanile, Irish setters, etc.
We are all still just a small, small percentage of retriever owners. We all fight an uphill battle everyday vs the animal rights wackos and others who might view our way of life with our dogs as wrong.
Just my .02cts....
Greg Floyd
What I fear is Labs seeing the same fate as the cocker spanile, Irish setters, etc.
We are all still just a small, small percentage of retriever owners. We all fight an uphill battle everyday vs the animal rights wackos and others who might view our way of life with our dogs as wrong.
Just my .02cts....
Greg Floyd
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I agree with what Joe said.
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there is already a definate separation but it is along the lines of dogs that trial and those that don't.
as this is my first lab i used the same criteria i used for the other working breeds i have owned. as a competitor i have a need for a certain "type" of dog.
when i went looking, anything that was not trialed was not considered. i chose a pup with a superior ft sire and a very strong ht dam. after observing both at work the pup was accepted. after 1 1/2 years i will state i was correct in my choice
some of us will always look for solid breeding and the rest will just want a "black or yellow or chocolate one".
to those that don't know, there is no compelling explaination. for those that do know, none is needed! :wink:
as this is my first lab i used the same criteria i used for the other working breeds i have owned. as a competitor i have a need for a certain "type" of dog.
when i went looking, anything that was not trialed was not considered. i chose a pup with a superior ft sire and a very strong ht dam. after observing both at work the pup was accepted. after 1 1/2 years i will state i was correct in my choice
some of us will always look for solid breeding and the rest will just want a "black or yellow or chocolate one".
to those that don't know, there is no compelling explaination. for those that do know, none is needed! :wink:
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