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I'm not trying to start a rumor or anything like that. I don't even feed Beneful. Usually if something is going down, I hear it on RTF first. I heard this on one of the Yahoo Groups and while it's by no means of Diamond/Professional proportions I was just wondering if there was any truth to it.

Stewart Smith
Staff Reporter

— When Huntsville resident Robert Barley switched his dog’s brand of
food last week, he did it wanting to give her what he thought would
be a healthier meal.
However, soon after he began feeding Beneful dog food to Pearl, a 5-
year-old German Shepherd/Labrador mix, she was dead.
“I took her to the vet every year,” Barley said. “I always kept her
on her Heartworm medicine and flea medicine.
“She never had anything negative. She was a healthy dog,”
He thought it might have just been a freak, isolated incident until
he overheard a co-worker talking about how her dog had died suddenly,
too.
Janet Rambeck, also of Huntsville, started feeding her dog from a bag
of Beneful she had bought just before Christmas at Wal-Mart.
Rambeck said she had only fed Sooner, a 7-year-old Dachshund, the
food on Friday, Jan. 26.
By Sunday morning, he was dead.
Both dog owners had kept their food under normal conditions inside
their pantries and said the expiration date on both bags was not
until November 2007.
After hearing both their dogs had died after eating the food, Rambeck
decided it was more than just coincidence and researching to see if
other dogs had died under similar circumstances.
While searching the Internet, Rambeck came across DoggyBling.com, a
Web site featuring canine products and found she and Barley aren’t
alone.
Ric Eddins, the site’s owner and founder, said he has been notified
by at least 20 other people from various parts of the country,
informing him of their dogs dying after eating Beneful purchased at
Wal-Mart.
Eddins said each owner independently reported they had bought the
food at Wal-Mart and described their dogs displaying identical
symptoms before death.
Those symptoms include white gums, glazed eyes, trouble standing,
acting sluggish or lethargic in nature and loss of appetite.
Eddins has issued a statement asking all dog owners to discontinue
feeding their pets Beneful until this has been resolved.
Keith Schopp, spokesperson for Nestle-Purina Pet Care, makers of
Beneful, told The Item arrangements have been made for Rambeck to
send a sample of the dog food to Purina for inspection and testing.
Also in a statement posted on DoggyBling.com, Purina acknowledged the
postings made on the Web site and encouraged all concerned consumers
to contact them directly by phone at (888) BENEFUL (236-3385) and
that a meeting was being held to discuss the issue.
Wal-Mart representatives were unable to be reached for comment Monday and Wednesday.
In addition to sending samples to Purina for testing, Rambeck had her
local veterinarian, Dr. Mickey Moore, send samples of the food to
Texas A&M University for testing.
However, until testing is completed, Moore said it will be very
difficult to ascertain the exact cause of death.
“There is only speculation right now,” Moore said. “It is a hard
situation until more facts are known.
“Most of these name-brand companies are very careful about their
quality control. They tend to be very careful and diligent when it
comes to presenting a quality product.
“That doesn’t mean things can’t happen, but they are going to go
above and beyond to make sure these kinds of situations don’t arise.”
In addition, Dr. Diane Levitan with the Center for Specialized
Veterinary Care in Westbury, N.Y., issued a statement on DoggyBling
saying she had found no data to confirm a relationship between the
food and the illnesses.
She added there were “millions of pets around the country that eat
Beneful and have exhibited no problems.”
In the meantime, all Rambeck can do is mourn the loss of what she
considered to be a member of the family.
“It was devastating. It was like losing a child,” Rambeck said. “All
of our children are grown so that dog was like a child to us.”

http://www.itemonli ne.com/local/ local_story_ 031234456. html?
keyword=topstory

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I heard it yesterday from Golden Retriever Club here in Maine..said to stop feeding immediately. Seemed to be bags bought from Wal Mart..

Purina, Beneful..

Just sent for it to be forwarded to me again..will post when I have it.
 

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Thanks Judy, that would be great to have another article. It caught my eye because my brother just switched his pup (Zoey that you PMed me about Judy) over to it and the article I posted said the bags expired Nov. '07 and we checked today and so does his. So he's stopping just in case until we hear more.

Here's another link I dug up:

http://www.dachsie.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=36673

I'll post up if I hear or find anything else.

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Dale,

That's what I was thinking although this has not yet been confirmed and there are far few cases as of yet. I don't feed it but was curious if anyone else had heard of it yet. I kept coming up with pretty much the same results on the Google search so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes of it.

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Kourtney..the article that I read is the same as you state in your first post.

.."Janet Rambeck, also of Huntsville, started feeding her dog from a bag
of Beneful she had bought just before Christmas at Wal-Mart. ..."

The club is sending the info to me again so I can forward to you just in case there is something more there...

Tell your brother, for me :) , that I sure would just change "Zoey's" food permanently...to a good quality food with meat..
So glad he has stopped feeding it..

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Judy,

Thanks. Yes, I try to inform people about food but I can't help it if they don't listen lol. I have changed some of my views though about fruits and veggies after going through what I have with Boscoe and switching to home feeding him. I haven't researched Beneful much because I used to just discard it as the dog's didn't need all those fruits and veggies, but I'm still learning.

In any event, I hope they can get this resolved and we can hear some test results to see what really is going on.

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Getting too much fruit and vegetables is not something you have to worry about with Beneful. If you read the label, you'll see it's got the same stuff as most grocery-store dog food: mainly grains, a little bit of animal-source protein, salt, sugar. IIRC the vegetables are in the "contains less than 2% of the following" group. Beef is pretty far down the list, too.

I understand from my vets that a *lot* of people feed Beneful. Also a lot of people shop at Wal-Mart. Dogs get unexplained symptoms all the time. With only 20 dogs involved nationwide, is it possible this is coincidence?

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Nothing about this on Purina’s web site (Pro Club or regular). Not that it means anything, but you would think if there were even a suspicion that this could turn out like the Diamond incident they would be fairly proactive in getting the word out and preventing any further occurrences.
 

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Ok..here is the email from GRC here in Maine..but does state that it is from the Internet so not sure of it's accuracy..

HEALTH ALERT! .....

Discontinue use of Beneful until this is resolved!

Multiple Reports We have received multiple reports of dogs becoming
sick or dying after eating Beneful dog food. The first reports were
placed in our new forum and was overlooked by DoggyBling.com staff
until we received direct emails last week and then another today.
After speaking on the phone with the lady who emailed us today, we
feel that there is sufficient cause for alarm. Dog lovers make a lot
of effort to take good care of their dogs and will want to know if
they are feeding them something that could be harmful. Most of the
alerts by email, forum and phone cited Beneful dog food that was
purchased at Wal Mart around Christmas of 2006.

We spoke with Terri Culp at Beneful this morning and were assured that
they are aware of the situation and are researching the problem. We
assured them that this won't go away and we would be alerting our
email base of the problem and posting a news item on our site. We also
told her that DoggyBling.com visitors and dog lovers everywhere would
be evaluating the way the Purina Corporation (Parent to Beneful)
handles the potential crisis.

Symptoms
The symptoms reported have been very similar. The reported symptoms
include some or all of the following: General weakness or
sluggishness, glazed eyes, not interested in food or water, white
gums, lack of control of bodily functions. Some of the callers
reported dogs that have died and others say they had gotten sick but
had recovered. I am inserting the first forum post about a dog that
became sick, but didn't die.

A week be fore Christmas we bought a bag of Beneful dog food at
Wal-Mart, DeFuniak Springs, FL. On 12/23 I noticed a tan mold like
growth on the dog food. Our 14 year old Dalmatian mix had been getting
weaker by the day and by 12/24 she was near death. Glazed eyes,
couldn't stand, eat, drink or control her functions. Her gums were
white. We had to carry her to the yard and hold her up so she could
go. The only thing she would eat was ham and turkey scraps. I spoke
with a microbiologist and she said the mold growing in the dog food
was toxic. It took a week for Sparky to regain her strength. I did
notify the manufacturer of Beneful, they were very sorry and are
sending coupons. Said it was a rare happening.

Beneful's Website

Notify us if your dog has had symptoms after using Beneful

We are going to stay on top of this situation and would like to know
if your dog has had any of the symptoms listed above after eating
Beneful. If so, please send an email to [email protected] ric
<mailto:_ric% 40doggybling. ric>_
(mailto:[email protected] com <mailto:ric% 40doggybling. com>)
or give us a call at 904-430-0260. Either way, please pass this email
and information to dog lovers who may be feeding this food to their dog.

DoggyBling.com _http://www.doggybli http:/_ <http://www.doggybli http:/_>
(http://www.doggybli ng.com/ <http://www.doggybli ng.com/>)

UPDATES:

Updates and Beneful's response and precautionary action will be listed
in our news section. We know Purina will take this seriously and will
not want to tarnish their company's positive reputation.

News Item about Beneful
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(http://www.doggybli ng.com/newsartic le.php?id= 1070
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Amy, thanks for that information, like I said I haven't researched it really at all. I have researched other foods more extensively. I try to recommend foods and sometimes others listen and sometimes they don't.

I checked Purina's website as well and did not see anything either. I agree it's not even close to Diamond and with only 20 cases it's completely possible it can be a coincidence. It could just be that after Diamond people are automatically turning to blame the food. No one knows right now.

I just figured I'd post it up to see if anyone else had heard it. Like I said, I usually hear of things on RTF first so that's why I figured everyone else would know if there might be some validity to the claims.

Thanks for all the posts and info. guys!

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Ok I just spoke with someone named Tracy at Purina. They are aware that this is going around and originated on doggybling (sic?). They said that that site has updated its posting to include comments form their (doggy bling) veterinarian. I just checked that site and only found a bunch of speculation and unfounded rumors (no update as told by Purina). Go read it for yourself and read it objectively, not a single sentence is based in fact, just antidotal stories from a couple of dog owners. The two root cases that I saw posted involved “My Polar Bear” who died after a week or so of starting a diet of Beneful. Notice that PB was a Shepard/Chow mix that was 11 years old. The second was a 14 year old dog. I have a news flash dogs often die after say 10 years of age or so and I really would not start rumors or a panic over an 11 and 14 year old dog dying. Notice the conspiracy theories that abound on that site as well. Things like don’t send your food for analysis to Texas A&M because they are tight with Purina. Send two samples to two different locations and “I know because the clinic where I an a tech at was the first to discover the Diamond issue". All of these are warning flags to me. You will also notice that there are a number of post removed from the site. That too makes me wonder. If there is an issue a complaint should be filed with the FDA so they can investigate and take apporiate action. Getting a warning out is OK, IF and only IF a warning is truly justified. At this point there is no way to tell if these events are at all related to the food, if someone has an agenda against Purina, if someone just lost a family pet and in their emotional state are looking for someone to blame, or if this is a case of tainted food.
Not to sound like a salesman for Purina, but it was pointed out that they base their reputation on maintaining the highest standards and stand fully behind all of their products and would not hesitate to recall any product that was of a questionable nature. Remember that Purina is a company that spends huge dollars of research and the dog games. They have every thing to lose in a circumstance like this so I will give them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. I would ponder a guess that there are very few people here that feed Beneful, so I would like to see the bus left in the garage until there is some substantiated proof that there is an association between feeding this feed and these dogs dying.
Tracy said if you have any questions feel free to call. 1-888-236-3385

A week be fore Christmas we bought a bag of Beneful dog food at
Wal-Mart, DeFuniak Springs, FL. On 12/23 I noticed a tan mold like
growth on the dog food. Our 14 year old Dalmatian mix had been getting
weaker by the day and by 12/24 she was near death. Glazed eyes,
couldn't stand, eat, drink or control her functions. Her gums were
white. We had to carry her to the yard and hold her up so she could
go. The only thing she would eat was ham and turkey scraps. I spoke
with a microbiologist and she said the mold growing in the dog food
was toxic
. It took a week for Sparky to regain her strength. I did
notify the manufacturer of Beneful, they were very sorry and are
sending coupons. Said it was a rare happening.
Surprise, a 14 year old dog getting weaker by the day. Note that this person spoke with a “microbiologist”, well folks I spent 12 years working as a microbiologist and without a culture or a DNA probe it would be very unprofessional to tell someone that the “mold” was toxic (post the lab results that back this up and add some credibility if there were any testing done). Not all mold is toxic and without determining what type of mold it is one could not even attempt to claim it is toxic. Secondly, living in Florida, as this poster does also, I can assure you that the state has issues with mold. It is a byproduct of the hot (yes even at Christmas time) and humid conditions. It is just a reasonable to assume that this could be a storage issue with the food as easily as a contamination issue from the plant. One would have to think that IF this were a plant contamination issue there would be a much larger number of affected dogs as there were with the Diamond foods. I have had a fair amount of dog food go bad due to mold in my many years of owning dogs due to storage of said food.

We spoke with Terri Culp at Beneful this morning and were assured that
they are aware of the situation and are researching the problem. We
assured them that this won't go away and we would be alerting our
email base of the problem and posting a news item on our site. We also
told her that DoggyBling.com visitors and dog lovers everywhere would
be evaluating the way the Purina Corporation (Parent to Beneful)
handles the potential crisis.
This statement reeks of agenda and bullying. It appears they have tried and convicted Purina with no factual basis.
 

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I appreciate the info badbullgator. I really do. I understand your comments, I hope they weren't directed at me (not good at understanding that internet conversation lol). I stated I wasn't trying to start rumors. I was trying to get information and find out if there was any validity to the statements. And I have done just that, thank you. Again, I don't feed this food. I have absolutely no problems with Purina, I've fed and recommended their brands (namely Pro Plan). I probably wouldn't have a problem feeding Professional again, just saying. But again, thank you for that information and hopefully if people who are feeding Beneful are concerned, they will call the company.

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Not directed at you at all. I have a pet peeve about all the misinformation that is on the internet. I truly believe that it has played a major role in the dumbing of America. People see things posted on the net and because they are out there in the public they believe them to be true.
That said I want it clear that I am not saying this could not possibly be linked to the food, just that the facts are not all in yet. Sometimes you (not you personally) cannot wait for facts to make a warning, but you have to be pretty damn sure that you are truly correct in making that warring, especially when that warring could have major impacts on someone. I do understand that this is probably done in good intent, but right now the facts just do not add up IMO.
 

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Agreed. I hate to say it but I think some people can be classified as simple pet owners and just don't go to the lengths that others do to find out what is best for their dog. I'm not calling them stupid, perhaps just misinformed and not wanting to exert some energy to educate themselves. I've only been a couple years from my conversion lol and am a far cry from the knowledge that does exist.

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I emailed a friend of mine that is with Purina about this.


Any truth to the rumors I'm hearing about Beneful and other Purina products?

Cray

here is the reply....

Not as far as I am aware. I did a quick google search and the only thing I am seeing is blog activity, which is suspect anyways. Where did you see your information?

I have inquired with the PR dept to get more info, but you can be very confident in the products. The QA department has very rigorous standards for all corn and other ingredients.
 

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More info

This from my friend at Purina.....

I have followed up with our PR dept and our (Purina) quality testing, including testing at independent laboratories, confirm the safety and efficacy of our products and confirm that the two dogs’ unfortunate deaths were unrelated to our product. Samples of Beneful were obtained by a veterinarian of one of the consumers and submitted for aflatoxin testing to the Texas Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Laboratory. Test results for aflatoxin were negative. We were also able to contact the consumers to verify product code and packaging information, we secured finished product from our factories with the same production run and date code as the products in question and submitted the samples for testing. Test results for the samples were received late Monday, Feb. 5, and the results confirmed the safety and quality of the products made at our factories. More specifically, the samples showed no presence of aflatoxin. All analytical testing confirm that our Beneful dry dog food products are safe, and meet all quality assurance specifications. You can feel totally confident in continuing to feed Purina products, as we stand firmly behind the high quality of our products.
 

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badbullgator said:
Kourtney
Not directed at you at all. I have a pet peeve about all the misinformation that is on the internet. I truly believe that it has played a major role in the dumbing of America. People see things posted on the net and because they are out there in the public they believe them to be true.
That said I want it clear that I am not saying this could not possibly be linked to the food, just that the facts are not all in yet. Sometimes you (not you personally) cannot wait for facts to make a warning, but you have to be pretty damn sure that you are truly correct in making that warring, especially when that warring could have major impacts on someone. I do understand that this is probably done in good intent, but right now the facts just do not add up IMO.
Excellent post, very well put!!! One the the reasons the media scares me so much, they have way too much control on what info we are exposed to. I will add that there is definitely an anti-big business/animal extremeist element that is out to hurt big business and any company that does any animal research. Everyone remember the Swiffter Wet Jet "Misinformation", highly suspicious of being a malicious rumor designed to hurt Proctor and Gamble.
 

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RTF'ers,

Please in cases like this where a corporation's reputation is on the line, and the power of RTF's audience is at hand...PLEASE do a little due diligence and spend some time to verify the rumor before you post it here.

IN this particular case, the manufacturer of Beneful is plainly obvious. Please don't just lob a brick over the wall to RTF asking some folks to catch it. If you really and truly want to spend some time and get some valid info, how about emailing the manufacturer first?

It takes the same amount of time, and then you may be able to post some FACTS on RTF first, rather than spreading nonsense.... Make sense? :wink:

Thanks to all of you for making RTF the resource that it is!

Chris
 
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