Exactly. If you keep the training and play separate, the dog knows the difference between play and work. I mean I wouldn't play tug with a bumper and certainly not with a duck out in the field nor at home.huntingrdr said:My dog plays tug in the house with a bone, but not with a bumper or duck. Outside is different, he knows the difference when I am playing ot when we are training.
Interesting the first part of that, using it as a tool for more timid dogs. And I agree with the second part not letting Alpha type dogs win. Now that I think about it, she is also using it as a tool to show who the real pack leader is- Jackie.Buzz said:Jackie Merten's Sound Beginnings.... She does it with more timid type dogs, but she said to be careful about teaching the drop command and also warned against letting a dominant dog win.
Yes we should, that is one way to make progress. If one goes back and read some old training books like James Free's. You'll find how much things have changed in the last 50 years. Example: Free is adamant about not starting training a dog until it is over one year of age. And today the training starts with puppy bumpers thrown down the hall.hhlabradors said:Sometimes we have to re-examine why we do the things we do (or do not do).
And there was "You can't keep a hunting dog in the house. You have to keep him outdoors or the scents in the house will ruin his nose" and "You can't let him play with the kids, or have anyone but yourself handle and feed him".Losthwy said:Example: Free is adamant about not starting training a dog until it is over one year of age. And today the training starts with puppy bumpers thrown down the hall.
..thanks for posting this resource...ghoffman105 said:Yes have taught my pup tug. I used the Leerburg DVD : Building Grip, Drive, and Focus. I use it to build concentration with Obedience instead of alot of Corrections. Just my $.02.
That's interesting. The first part of the FF process I teach is the "out." Hearing that permission to spit that nasty gloved hand out :wink: is about the most rewarding thing you can offer a dog who's just started this. You can then make use of backchaining principles all through the FF process, moving backwards to hold, and then to fetch, always moving from the newest and most anxiety producing to the comfort of the known. The "out" becomes a conditioned reward. It cuts way down on stickiness on the release.Roger Perry said:That is an interesting question. I had this discussion at the Women's Field Trial with a handler that also teaches obedience. One thing she said is we teach our dogs to fetch and hold but never teach them to drop or leave it.