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Has anyone had experience with a middle aged dog (mine is 5) losing their hearing? He seems young to be doing so. I thought it might be compacted build up in his ear canals, but the vet says she can see all the way to the drum. She said we could take him to a neurologist to see if we have any options.

I'm upset he's losing his hearing, but we can deal with that. I'm more worried it might be a tumor or something. But even if it is, can anything be done? Any other causes for this?

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Have you used any ear drops on him recently? One of my older goldens went stone deaf from mal-otic, at which time I found out that it's a listed side effect for most of the ear drops. Luckily we caught it immediately and with ear flushes etc. he regained most of his hearing.
 

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I have a 4 year old I've had in training for the past couple years. He has suffered through several bad ear infections and some irresponsible gun handling before he came to me. Super talented and obedient out to abt 175 yds. Doesn't hear well beyond that. Its a shame.
 

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Sean, have you had him tested (Baer)? The only one that I know of that went deaf when young was due to chronic ear infections/allergies.
 

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He's never had any ear infections. He gets gunk from time to time that I clean out.

Yes, he's a gun dog, but I was always conscious to make sure he's behind the guns. He hasn't even hunted the past two seasons since my son was born.

Windy, do you mean tested for hearing loss? I can yell at him from 5 feet and if he's facing away he's oblivous. The first I noticed was maybe a couple of months ago.
 

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i had a really talented dog that started to go deaf at 4. by the time she was 5, she couldn't hear a thing. no known cause.....

the Baer test is the only way to really measure hearing loss in dogs. Daisy was tested at Tufts University. the cost was minimal, as i remember. that was a tough ride home.

on the bright side, i continued to run her in Hunt Tests and hunt her right up until the time of her death at age 12. we had a heck of a lot of fun together.

hopefully when we meet at the rainbow bridge she'll be able to hear me say how glad i am to see her.....

good luck, and i hope it's a temporary or partial loss of hearing-Paul
 

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I had a bitch that went deaf at about 8 , she told me at a hunt test when she just kept going on a blind..she had some very different bacterial infection.Sent a culture to be grown to lab. She got her hearing back , until she was about 12 then was deaf til she died at 15.

Have a pup out there that hunts alot, deaf at 7
 

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Windy, do you mean tested for hearing loss? I can yell at him from 5 feet and if he's facing away he's oblivous. The first I noticed was maybe a couple of months ago.
Yes. Several years ago we had a vet come into our canine health clinic to perform Baer testing. Cost was only ~$25-30 as I recall. I didn't do my labs but I was just noting on OFA a Labrador stud that was tested and was thinking to myself why...

I'd opt for the testing. Maybe it's not too late to do something???
 

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We're definitely going to talk to a specialist. It has just happened so fast it can't be your normal hearing loss.
 

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Sean,
I work with humans with hearing loss. As stated before, BAER is the only way to test a dog and is noninvasive. If there is an infection the vet should be able to spot that with an otoscope. Shotgun blasts are dangerous to hearing and the dogs should be behind the guns when possible as you mentioned. By the way, you should have earplugs in too or you will be the next with hearing loss. Just a thought and good luck. Oz
 

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Sean, it happened to a wonderful HRCH/MH that I trained out of Moutain Meadow kennel in Arkansas. All show bred. The hearing issue was never really investigated which was unfortunate.

Your dog is really a wonderful dog. I'm so sorry to hear this.

Angie
 

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That's good to hear. You will be miserable unless you find out what is going on..

If you have a chance, let us know how it goes.

Best,

Judy

Edit..I remember, "Daisy"...
 

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Thanks everybody.

Our normal vet aid she didn't see any signs of infection looking down his ear canal, but that she can't see the inner ear so something could be going on in there.
 

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My CFC CAFC lost her hearing at about 5 years old. We don't know for sure when as it was gradual. She was hunted extensively starting as a 20 month old and there is no doubt that this is what caused the hearing loss. I know this because she came home deaf a couple of times a year after hunting, and her hearing returned a day or two later. I didn't know any better at this time and have many regrets.

She started slipping whistles on water blinds and just got worse over time on land and water.

I had her BAER tested when we first noticed it affecting her training and the vet (who was also a PhD specializing in this) said that the BAER would be able to tell me if she heard at only one frequency, but wouldn't be able to tell me if she could hear at all frequencies (whistles). She passed the BAER, but he said it would be a many-hour procedure to check all frequencies of her hearing.

It was a heartbreaking decision to make, but we retired her from trials at about 6 years old. We thought she was disobedient at first and started correcting her for slipping whistles, but to make a long story short...she flatly could not hear.

She's now 8 and the hearing loss has become much more noticeable in day to day life and not just on blinds. She doesn't hear things (LOUD things) the other dogs do and we have to talk fairly loudly to her when she is close by to get her attention.

I read a good study on hearing loss in dogs. There's a longer version of this study, but this is the summary.

http://www.msstate.edu/web/media/detail.php?id=1812

You were proactive by keeping your dog behind the guns when hunting. Unfortunately I was not every single time and I think some dog's are more sensitive to loud noises then others. My 9 1/2 year old is still running trials and hears great and she was hunted just the same as my other dog.

Lesson learned the hard way.

Marcy
 

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This is getting weird.

I went to a friends ranch for the weekend, and Jet could hear when I got back just now!! I'm so happy!!

I want to figure out what's going on though. My thoughts are it either was an infection that is going away due to the vet cleaning his ears good, or it was temporary hearing loss due to ear wash solution.

We are still going to see the neurologist tomorrow.

Here's a summary of what's happened. These dates are approximate, I can't remember exactly when these occured.

1 month ago - after a couple of weeks of what seemed to be diminishing hearing (I wasn't sure), I cleaned his ears. There was quite a bit of build up, and his hearing seemed to get better.

2 weeks ago - his hearing seemed to be worsening again so I cleaned his ears. There wasn't much buildup and it didn't seem to help.

1 week ago - he seemed to be able to hear only very little. By Wednesday he seemed to not hear anything.

Thursday - the vet saw him as stated in the OP. From the vets note, "some wax in ear, but not excessive. Cleaned both ears with epi-otic. Xyn(?) membrane appears normal bilut(?)."

If it wasn't for him not being able to hear before going to te vet, I would assume it was the epi-otic, but he has improved a few days after that treatment. So maybe it was an infection?

Here's the cleaning solution I was using.
Nutri-Vet Ear Cleanse for Dogs
Ingredients: Deionized Water U.S.P., Propylene Glycol, Aloe Vera Gel, SD Alcohol, Lactic Acid, Glycerin, Dioctyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate, Salicylic Acid, Fragrance, Benzoic Acid, Benzyl Alcohol.

Is that the same stuff as epi-otic?
 

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Well this vet did see impacted wax down by the ear drum. They sedated him and flushed his ears really good. Gave me some pills and ear drops to take care of yeast in the ears.

We'll see how it goes, fingers crossed that's all it was.
 

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That is certainly a happy ending! Good information to have as well. Go the extra mile (neurologist) to be sure what is going on.

Judy
 

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Sean,

I'm glad to hear he is better. He is such a nice boy.

The ear cleaner I use for my dogs is Zymox Ear Cleanser (not the one w/hydrocortisone). My vet recommended it and I've never had problems with it.
 
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