Does the Hillman program use a heeling stick and/or prong collar?
Why or why not? Thanks!
Why or why not? Thanks!
Can you elaborate on what changes Bill has made to his program and what methods have changed since the original DVD?I've started 3 dogs following the original puppy DVD (I understand that Bill doesn't follow this process any longer). Two were 11 weeks and so you don't need more than a lead and choke collar to control the little puppies. The other was about 8 months old when I got her and she was compliant enough that you wouldn't need a prong collar regardless of your training method.
Again, this is what I've gathered from the original puppy DVD, and I've been told by a student if the Hillmann philosophy that this may be obsolete now (but it worked wonders for me).
I don't think "obsolete" is accurate in the difference between the Original and Revised editions. Two notable differences are the force fetch method has changed (as shown in the Fetch DVD), and he starts teaching "Here" earlier, but in a different context than the Original DVD. It's taught while the pup is NOT sitting, but just casually walking on lead.Can you elaborate on what changes Bill has made to his program and what methods have changed since the original DVD?
No I can not. I haven't seen the new stuff, just been told by PM that he didn't do the things I described from the original puppy dvd. So, I decided to throw that disclaimer out there.Can you elaborate on what changes Bill has made to his program and what methods have changed since the original DVD?
It's anonymous to you. I know the person and they are well versed in the Hillmann philosophy. I'd say an expert and 100% Hillmannite. If I put the disclaimer out there, people can investigate it on their own, as you have done. If I don't put it out there, I may be making statements that are no longer consistent with Bill's method.Thank you KC and MD. That certainly makes more sense. Glen, it appears that none of the concepts or methods have been abandoned, just expanded. I suggest restraint in making claims otherwise on the strength of an anonymous PM.
So back to my original post. The Hillman program does not use a heeling stick and/or prong collar because it is typically not needed under the "Hillman program"? Thanks.Just ordered the new revised edition. Are you saying this one is not as good as the original!?
Thank you!The “Training a Retriever Puppy” video Revised Edition is an expansion of the first DVD with additional clarification and information.
If you scroll back and read the comments put forth by MountainDuck you will have the correct info.
Bill does not use a heeling stick or a prong collar especially on little puppies. These Hillmann DVDs are lessons in mastering the use of the electric collar not whips, chains, sticks etc.