Nope...PM'd ya. I probably won't be over there until around noon.DKR said:
hrc seasoned test set-up
Was at an HRC test this past weekend, and saw a seasoned water test with the blind INSIDE the marks. Actually it was directly on the same line as one mark, just further. Is the mark supposed to be inside or outside the mark in seasoned, or does it matter. My dog was NOT running, i'm just curious.
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I wont make it until friday night probably 830 or so. No way to skip outta work for set up this week, so the steves and johnny will set it up friday, and I'll fix it saturday morning. bwhahahaha, I kill myself.
Ive never had a discussion with one of my judges that was anything but pleasant, and everyone agreed to a change for the better. That starts with a committee member (or several) oking the tests, and good judges that you respect and want to spend a weekend with. Smartest sunofagun in the world (like me) can still use other concearned peoples thoughts when there is a safety or legailty issue, or perhaps a pitfall that wasnt intended.
And Ive always felt it better to be creative in the scenario of a test, not in the content of a test. If you added a double blind to a test that didnt have it, how would you judge it? If one blind was a great job, and the other wasn't would you fail the dog? After all, the rules state it must have A blind... so the dog did run A blind fine. Is one blind smoked, but the other bobbled, is that a better job that the dog that did bubble work on two? Control is cumilative, but the rules state a dog must run A blind... in reality, Im not will to think that damn hard about something that really shouldnt be thought about to begin with. Just set up an apporiate blind and judge the way your supposed too... I cant remember ever wishing when i was done, if I could have only run a double blind, Id know if these dogs can hunt! hehe.
We've got a terrifc rulebook to currently judge hunting dogs with. Ambiguity can be a bad thing, but in general its a good thing when its applied to people trying to use common sense.
All this open mindness and common sense would still take a back seat to the #1 arguement about wes's double blind... this is not akc... you'd hear that 10,000 times before ya got off the hunt grounds. bwhahaha. travis
Ive never had a discussion with one of my judges that was anything but pleasant, and everyone agreed to a change for the better. That starts with a committee member (or several) oking the tests, and good judges that you respect and want to spend a weekend with. Smartest sunofagun in the world (like me) can still use other concearned peoples thoughts when there is a safety or legailty issue, or perhaps a pitfall that wasnt intended.
And Ive always felt it better to be creative in the scenario of a test, not in the content of a test. If you added a double blind to a test that didnt have it, how would you judge it? If one blind was a great job, and the other wasn't would you fail the dog? After all, the rules state it must have A blind... so the dog did run A blind fine. Is one blind smoked, but the other bobbled, is that a better job that the dog that did bubble work on two? Control is cumilative, but the rules state a dog must run A blind... in reality, Im not will to think that damn hard about something that really shouldnt be thought about to begin with. Just set up an apporiate blind and judge the way your supposed too... I cant remember ever wishing when i was done, if I could have only run a double blind, Id know if these dogs can hunt! hehe.
We've got a terrifc rulebook to currently judge hunting dogs with. Ambiguity can be a bad thing, but in general its a good thing when its applied to people trying to use common sense.
All this open mindness and common sense would still take a back seat to the #1 arguement about wes's double blind... this is not akc... you'd hear that 10,000 times before ya got off the hunt grounds. bwhahaha. travis
IMHO, the Seminar is set-up to explain rules and purpose in-depth. HRC has chosen not to try and black and white everything.
The blinds at the Seasoned level are designed to be run so that the marks DO NOT influence the blind. Even if the blind is run first the previously thrown marks are still influencing the blind.
Any judge that thinks this is exceptable in HRC was asleep at the seminar.
The blinds at the Seasoned level are designed to be run so that the marks DO NOT influence the blind. Even if the blind is run first the previously thrown marks are still influencing the blind.
Any judge that thinks this is exceptable in HRC was asleep at the seminar.
Call Tracy before you get there, we might want you to pickup some beer & chips.goosebruce said:I wont make it until friday night probably 830 or so. No way to skip outta work for set up this week, so the steves and johnny will set it up friday, and I'll fix it saturday morning. bwhahahaha, I kill myself.
The older I get the more truth I find in the saying "Common sense isn't that common."We've got a terrifc rulebook to currently judge hunting dogs with. Ambiguity can be a bad thing, but in general its a good thing when its applied to people trying to use common sense.
All this open mindness and common sense would still take a back seat to the #1 arguement about wes's double blind... this is not akc... you'd hear that 10,000 times before ya got off the hunt grounds. bwhahaha. travis
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