[Guest]

Don't let clubs get away with bad hunt test judges. Favors are being paid off with judging assignments. The sport suffers from this type of behaviour. Master judges should be qualified to judge Master, regardless of what AKC thinks. Let the host club know you will not tolerate this and don't support them.

 

[spaightlabs]

allright, I'll bite - whose ox got gored?? Who dropped you 'unfairly'??

 

[2tall]

Favors are being paid off with judging assignments.

Please, somebody help the greenhorn. I thought judges were volunteers who agreed to do a job that just about guarantees that nobody will like them, will have their failings discussed in public, earn pics from /Paul and fire from KG, all just because they love the sport. Am I that incredibly naive? I must say in the only two AKC events I've been to, I thanked those judges profusely for just being there and setting up a nice test. I thank those that allow me to enjoy a unique game far removed from the $$$$ driven horse world!

 

[spaightlabs]

I didn't know it was possible to be doing someone a favor by letting them judge?? :roll:

 

[Gun_Dog2002]

Favors are being paid off with judging assignments.

Please, somebody help the greenhorn. I thought judges were volunteers who agreed to do a job that just about guarantees that nobody will like them, will have their failings discussed in public, earn pics from /Paul and fire from KG, all just because they love the sport. Am I that incredibly naive? I must say in the only two AKC events I've been to, I thanked those judges profusely for just being there and setting up a nice test. I thank those that allow me to enjoy a unique game far removed from the $$$$ driven horse world!

I agree. I thanked all the judges this weekend for sitting in the blazing hot sun all day watching my mutts do things that make me shake my head and wonder where the heck did they learn that. Maybe Billy should tell us his name and we can then ask him to get his Gruf but in a judges chair...

/Paul

 

[Swampcollie]

Ultimately the Clubs are responsible for selecting the judges (Junior, Senior or Master) that sit in the chair on a given weekend. If you believe somebody isn't qualified to sit in the chair you should address your concerns with the Club. If enough folks don't have rosey feelings about a given Judge or Judges, the event giving Club will see a reduction in entries and to their bottom line as well.

(Most Hunt Test participants have a little black book of judges names that they will never run under again.)

The other way to deal with judge selection, is to become active in the club and become part of the judges selection committee. You may find that putting together a judges panel is a lot harder to accomplish than many folks believe. :wink:

 

[K G]

I thought judges were volunteers who agreed to do a job that just about guarantees that nobody will like them, will have their failings discussed in public, earn pics from /Paul and fire from KG, all just because they love the sport.

Huh? :? Wanna 'splain that comment?

kg

 

[2tall]

Oh, it was nothing, just been enjoying you and Paul go on about the judge in another post that wasnt wearing camo. I do believe that you dont let ****e look like shinola, but nobody ever puts their arse on the line like hunt test judges that get reviewed by everybody including their peers :lol:

 

[K G]

Been there, done that, got numerous t-shirts and for some reason I still keep going back....."insanity" is the medical term for it, I think.

If you know you're going to judge in advance (and you should), and you know what time of year you're going to judge (and you should), and you know WHERE you're going to judge (and you should), then ask someone who lives there (like the chairman or event secretary, if you don't live there yourself) what the weather is expected to be like. You can prepare to dress accordingly.

I just don't think there's much, if any, excuse for not being prepared to run or judge the test as its format says it will be run, up to and including attire. If someone comes out of the holding blind wearing a bright orange "Harley" shirt or (my personal favorite... :wink: ) a BRIGHT blue "Surf's Up!" muscle shirt, I'll ask them to find something camo to put over it until they've finished the test. Now, that said, I'll tell someone to put their lead in their pocket if they leave it dangling or pull it out too early for their dog. Am I required to do that? No...but I'd want it done for me. If someone other than a pro or at any level other than Master is about to make a mistake that will require their elimination, I'll warn them beforehand; the first one is on me. After that, they're on their own. One should know the regs/guidelines that require elimination BEFORE they come to the running line.

Knowing the regs/guidelines and playing by them helps build respect for the sport and the titles awarded in it.

JMHO.....

kg

 

[DEDEYE]

WOW! This thread pisses me off! Pretty sure the judges are NOT getting paid. Neither is the Chair, Secretary, Gun Captain, or anyone else except for maybe some birdboys. The people who are complaining about things that go wrong, "unfair" judging, time management, or anything else, are the people who hide out in thier trucks refusing to even offer to help.

We have judges who have given up a day to run thier own dog, or don't even have a dog, come out and spend the day. Or two....

Our Chair for the 1st trial will be there all three days with no dog to run. Guarantee that she will hear about everything that went wrong...

Judges, Chairs, Trial Slaves... They are all the same. People who get bitched at, laughed at, and other general disrespect....

That's all I have to say about that..... :evil:

Trial Slave Who Just Passed Judging Test Regards,
Mary O

 

[lablover]

There is no excuse for not knowing the weather at the location you are to judge.
All you need to do is enter the closest town, or zip code into any number of weather sites, and you have an instant weather report.

 

[Dale]

Ok let's see, I went down in flames this past weekend and on day 2 I have no idea why I was even called back for the water. I don't think the problem was the judges, I may be wrong but I don't think so this time.

Yes I keep a black book regards.

 

[K G]

WOW! This thread pisses me off!

What offends you the most Mary? Just want to be clear on what motivates your ire....

kg

btw....I tried your "authorhouse" link. It didn't work....

 

[DEDEYE]

WOW! This thread pisses me off!

What offends you the most Mary? Just want to be clear on what motivates your ire....

kg

btw....I tried your "authorhouse" link. It didn't work....

Hmmm I guess I woke up on the wrong side of 45 years old today! I just got mad at what I took as one more bash against judges. To me, bashing judges all the time is basically bashing the people who are working at trying to put on a good weekend. While I agree that there are some judges who should probably not be judging, I also think that most people don't realize what it takes to put on a trial and that is where I snapped I reckon.......

 

[Gun_Dog2002]

Been there, done that, got numerous t-shirts and for some reason I still keep going back....."insanity" is the medical term for it, I think.

If you know you're going to judge in advance (and you should), and you know what time of year you're going to judge (and you should), and you know WHERE you're going to judge (and you should), then ask someone who lives there (like the chairman or event secretary, if you don't live there yourself) what the weather is expected to be like. You can prepare to dress accordingly.

I just don't think there's much, if any, excuse for not being prepared to run or judge the test as its format says it will be run, up to and including attire. If someone comes out of the holding blind wearing a bright orange "Harley" shirt or (my personal favorite... :wink: ) a BRIGHT blue "Surf's Up!" muscle shirt, I'll ask them to find something camo to put over it until they've finished the test. Now, that said, I'll tell someone to put their lead in their pocket if they leave it dangling or pull it out too early for their dog. Am I required to do that? No...but I'd want it done for me. If someone other than a pro or at any level other than Master is about to make a mistake that will require their elimination, I'll warn them beforehand; the first one is on me. After that, they're on their own. One should know the regs/guidelines that require elimination BEFORE they come to the running line.

Knowing the regs/guidelines and playing by them helps build respect for the sport and the titles awarded in it.

JMHO.....

kg

I agree. Pass me a beer...

/Paul

 

[2tall]

There is no excuse for not knowing the weather at the location you are to judge.
All you need to do is enter the closest town, or zip code into any number of weather sites, and you have an instant weather report.

I must have missed a reply here. Who was talking about the weather and what does it have to do with judging?

 

[Ken Guthrie]

Hopefully JT recieved my check. :wink:

 

[2tall]

wtf?????

 

[K G]

I must have missed a reply here. Who was talking about the weather and what does it have to do with judging?

It started with my reply to the following statement you made over on page one.

Oh, it was nothing, just been enjoying you and Paul go on about the judge in another post that wasnt wearing camo.

Yeah, they all do this regards,
:lol:
kg

 

[Cindy Read]

Judges

Wait, stop the bus for a bit. There are individuals out there who do not know the regulations and guidelines yet are asked to judge by clubs they are a member of or because they volunteer. Just because an individual volunteer's to judge doesn't always mean that person should be judging.

Every game has it's problems and each needs to addressed in the proper manner. A letter to the club regarding an individual or not entering your dog and the club having an overall low entry gets the message across pretty quick.

Cindy