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ok lets start with the backround sophie is my awsome blf she is 6 months old we have been workin on basic ob for 5 weeks or so sit say heel she is doin great her stay need more work but thats another story we are to the poin im thinking about ff im not sure what she will gain by it she already picks up anything i want her to she holds good and will walk around with it all day long am i missing something or what im working from duck dog basics and farmer aycocks retriever training thanks for your replies
 

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I quit givin my expert advice cause people here have hard time swallowin how truely intelligent I am!!

But here goes anyhows..

Gooser has NEVER had to take that big a deep breth to complete readin that sentence a yours out lowd!!

After I accomplished the task,, I was confused too...

I also Had a real bad lack a oxegen headache!!:confused:

Welcomr to RTF!!

This is a GREAT PLACE!!

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My BURRO NOT with child!! (Ya Gotta Say Burro with the "Roll")

Jest a Fat A$$

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The reason one does force fetching is because at some point in training your dog will decide not to retrieve because of added pressure from teaching other things that usually involve water or blinds and without a foundation of skills "Force Fetching" you are left with a huge mess and no clear way to fix it. Always build a strong foundation and you. An deal with any of the problems that will occur in the training of the dog.
 

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Having a dog force fetched makes collar conditioning easier for them and is therefore very helpful in the next steps of training like forcing to pile etc.
 

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Welcome! Great question.

Evan Graham of Smartworks has written an introduction to Force Fetch. It has been permanently posted by a moderator over at The Duck Hunters Refuge in their Gun Gog Forum. He goes into detail.

Force Fetch can be thought of as a tool for mouth problems or other training problems. On a deeper level Evan writes that FF is the foundation of building momentum.

Chris
 

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dogs retrieve for their own enjoyment than comes the day that they dont feel like retrieving for you and what recourse do you have ????? na da go do the ff
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dogs retriever for their own enjoyment than come the day that they dont feel like retrieving for you and what recourse do you have ????? na da go do the ff
my 2 c
Paging gooser or a translator please. Both would be nice.
 

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It's more about teaching the dog to handle pressure(and turn it off) than it is picking stuff up. Pressure being whatever training tools you use for negative enforcement. (collar, choke chain, heeling stick, hand, etc)
 

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whats hard to understand - a pup picks up a ball brings it to you - you throw it and he brings to you agan - you throw it again- he runs past the ball to check out a frog -and not return with the ball - what can you do - nothing because he has no back ground in the training to pick up on command simlpe enough ?
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