Very true. Thanks for your insight. I guess it just bothers me that folks have the negative views on collars. I personally feel they are the best tool we have when used properly.
You know that...I know that....almost every pro you can think of knows that...as well as almost every successful (and of course that implies a certain form of success) amatuer knows that too. Among this group, it's not even argueable. So my question is, why do you look for an arguement with someone NOT in this group?
It's similar to the FF/nonFF crowds. It's politics. A religion. Of course it can be discussed, but it seldom goes that far...it becomes an arguement over attempts to convince others of "what's right". Then it goes beyond that into making those that do FF or CC feel guilty, because for the non-FF crowd, that "pressure" is plain and simple "abuse".
There are those members of RTF that achieve their training goals by using an "Amish" style program. More power to them. I applaud their abilities. I too, as many my age, have been there done that. But I'm now from the Dave Duffy camp..."dragged kicking and screaming into the twentieth century" as he wrote several years ago. Many of us still incorporate some of the pre-collar teachings we used in the past, but not FF or CC is no longer given any thought. We pretty much follow a designed program to a level we need to be happy with our dog's accomplishments. Nuff said.