[2tall]

I overheard a discussion at a picnic trial a few months ago regarding tags on the collar of a junior dog. After reading through my rule book, I find no mention of it at all, only that a jr dog can wear a flat collar. I am running my first AKC test in a couple of weeks and would like to know if I need to get another collar without tags. Dont really want to take them off of his everyday collar.

 

[Trevor Toberny]

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buy another 2 dollar flat collar at wal mart then.I dont know if you can use one with tags or not.

 

[Laranie Labs]

I was told at a test by a judge that the dog could not have tags on while running.

Just what I heard regards,

Larry

 

[Guest]

I'm not sure what collar you're using on him regularly, Carol. But I would recommend you get a collar just for hunt tests and get one that's just like what's on your electric collar -- the nylon coated, waterproof ones. Then you have it whenever you need it, it won't get smelly when you run water, etc. etc.

Good luck!!

-Kristie

 

[Lady Duck Hunter]

There is nothing in the regulations and guidelines that addresses tags on the collars. However this comes up every once in a while from the show ring crowd and usually causes an unnecessary panic among the junior dog handlers as they struggle to remove their rabies or ID tags.

Get a the most current rule book and ask the judge to show you where in there it says that they are not permitted to run with tags.

 

[Swampcollie]

There is no regulation that prohibits tags. Some folks confuse tags with the short tab mentioned in the regs.

Now that being said, there are some folks that have a propensity to add a lot of tag like jewelery to their dogs collars and some judges may want those collars removed to prevent the extraneous jewelery from getting caught up and becoming a safety problem.

A simple name tag or rabies tag shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Jerry]

Don't know why it would be a burden to just put a plain, unadorned, flat collar on the dog for Tests. That would eliminate ANY problem.

Jerry

 

[Dale]

At a handlers meeting prior to a test most judges(JH) say they would prefer no tags as they could cause the dog to get tangled in cover or aother things in the water.

But like has already been said just get another collar or run the dog without.
Just as easy to drape the lead around the dogs neck and fine by the rules as long as it is not set up as a slip lead.

 

[DRAKEHAVEN]

OK.. So I have not run a JH test in 10 years. Plan to run a couple this spring. Why is it that I can not use a slip lead to lightly restrain the puppy ?

John
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[Guest]

Re: what the ?

OK.. So I have not run a JH test in 10 years. Plan to run a couple this spring. Why is it that I can not use a slip lead to lightly restrain the puppy ?

John

...because it's against the rules!!

Now... You CAN take a slip lead and put it UNDER the dog's collar and walk the dog around, but you CANNOT walk a junior dog to the line nor restraint it with the slip lead in traditional use (around the neck).

no choker-type restraint is allowed.

-k

 

[DRAKEHAVEN]

So I don't use it like a choker, when they say dog to line, i just loop the slip lead around the neck. Walk to the mat, the say #69 and I let go of one end of the string, Fido goes an gets the chicken. Any problem ?
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[Guest]

Re: ok

So I don't use it like a choker, when they say dog to line, i just loop the slip lead around the neck. Walk to the mat, the say #69 and I let go of one end of the string, Fido goes an gets the chicken. Any problem ?

As long as the "choking action" is not in effect, you're fine. If you just make a "u" of it and put it around your dog, it's legal. But if it can cinch up around your dog, not legal....

 

[Tsangster]

If you use an e-collar for training you can remove the receiver during the test and run the dog with the nylon strap only.

 

[Guest]

If you use an e-collar for training you can remove the receiver during the test and run the dog with the nylon strap only.

Yeah, did that this weekend... But I always get worried I'm going to lose the box!

-K

 

[HuntinDawg]

I ran into this a few years ago while running Junior. Then I ran into it again with my current dog last year, but I was prepared. Bottom line, it may not be in the rule book, but I've heard several judges say "no tags" in the hanlders meeting. The first time it happened I had to remove the tags from the only flat collar I had with me. I suggest a flat collar with a brass nameplate riveted to the surface of the collar...that way you have identification and are still within the rules.

It may not be in the rulebook, but different judges have different quirks and I'm not getting into a pissing contest with a judge over something so easily solved and immaterial to the test. Just comply and save your battles for something that matters IMO.

Good luck.

 

[2tall]

Ok, cool,I am just going to get a nylon collar that is similar to the e collar and keep it in the truck for test. Sounds right, simple and easy. Thanks all!

 

[Swampcollie]

Re: ok

So I don't use it like a choker, when they say dog to line, i just loop the slip lead around the neck. Walk to the mat, the say #69 and I let go of one end of the string, Fido goes an gets the chicken. Any problem ?

(This is a question straight out of the latest AKC Hunt Test Seminar by the way.) The short answer is you can't do that anymore.

You may bring a Junior dog to the line on a lead attached to a flat collar. You may gently restrain a junior dog by holding the flat collar. You may loop the lead through the collar and drop one end as you've suggested, but it must be through the collar, not around the dogs neck where is could be used as a choking device.

 

[Guest]

Re: ok

So I don't use it like a choker, when they say dog to line, i just loop the slip lead around the neck. Walk to the mat, the say #69 and I let go of one end of the string, Fido goes an gets the chicken. Any problem ?

(This is a question straight out of the latest AKC Hunt Test Seminar by the way.) The short answer is you can't do that anymore.

You may bring a Junior dog to the line on a lead attached to a flat collar. You may gently restrain a junior dog by holding the flat collar. You may loop the lead through the collar and drop one end as you've suggested, but it must be through the collar, not around the dogs neck where is could be used as a choking device.

As long as it's in a "u" and not in "choker position" you're ok...

 

[Lady Duck Hunter]

Do it however you want, but supposedly you can not be made to remove your tags because nobody will be able to find a rule to support that. I was judging a test once and the Marshal made a comment to the handlers that all tags had to be removed before the dog ran....I quickly corrected her and said that was not a regulation or guideline in the book that I used.

If the judges think that is in there what other things might they be confused about?

 

[Guest]

Do it however you want, but supposedly you can not be made to remove your tags because nobody will be able to find a rule to support that. I was judging a test once and the Marshal made a comment to the handlers that all tags had to be removed before the dog ran....I quickly corrected her and said that was not a regulation or guideline in the book that I used.

If the judges think that is in there what other things might they be confused about?

I agree with this. if it were ME, I wouldn't want tags on my dog... BUT, if someone wants to run their dogs with tags... It's their perogative and it appears to be legal.