[Chris Atkinson]

I'm blown away at my perception today, of the exact same articles that I read by Mike lardy in 1995, 1996 etc. My ancient VHS Total Retriever Training series, and the associated articles make so much sense to me this time around!

No holes regards,

Chris

 

[Jerry]

Keep that attitude Chris. It will serve you and your dog well.

E-collar regards,

Jerry

 

[Angie B]

Because you can only comprehend the material for the level you are at the time.

I found that in the beginning I could only absorb what was relevant.. The rest was sooooo over my head that it flew right over.

Angie

 

[Lance-CO]

Ditto! Like I said, I just watched Mike Lardy's DVD Vol I with his workbook. I was blown away to how much my dog had to put up w/me. It all make sense why my dog acted the way he acted in training and during HT.


Angelo

 

[lablover]

Every time I look at mine, I see more of what I missed the last 26 times I looked at the videos. :lol:

 

[Keith Stroyan]

Electricity

Be one with the collar.


;-)

 

[Buzz]

Angie, isn't everthing in those articles relevent? :wink:

Chris, I kind of know what you're talking about. The last few days I've been going back and re-reading articles again. Very glad I did. Each paragraph seems so packed with great little tidbits. He really covered a lot of bases. I can't think of too many problems I've had that I couldn't find a solution to in one of those tidbits. If I could only wave a magic wand to make me more consistent as a handler.

 

[2tall]

So how come you guys holler at me when I dont "get" Lardy's articles? I would love to be able to buy and follow the whole program, but without help I only comprehend so much. My training pard, a good "lardy" man, has been doing this for 30 years and he doesnt understand all. Thats why hes going to the work shop, and I couldnt get in. When you help me it is phenomenal, when you yell at me, I am as confused as my dog. Once again, ther are no pros in my immediate area, and I want to learn with my dog, thats why I got him. Not being grouchy, just want the most, best, reliable advice I can get. [/u]

 

[jeff t.]

I'm blown away at my perception today, of the exact same articles that I read by Mike lardy in 1995, 1996 etc. My ancient VHS Total Retriever Training series, and the associated articles make so much sense to me this time around!

No holes regards,

Chris

It has been my experience that if you can make it to a workshop, and see it in person it becomes even more clear.

Sounds like you are enjoying it!

Jeff

 

[Angie B]

So how come you guys holler at me when I dont "get" Lardy's articles? I would love to be able to buy and follow the whole program, but without help I only comprehend so much. My training pard, a good "lardy" man, has been doing this for 30 years and he doesnt understand all. Thats why hes going to the work shop, and I couldnt get in. When you help me it is phenomenal, when you yell at me, I am as confused as my dog. Once again, ther are no pros in my immediate area, and I want to learn with my dog, thats why I got him. Not being grouchy, just want the most, best, reliable advice I can get. [/u]

You need to come to Texas.... I specialize in cases like you....

Angie

 

[Franco]

Hard to watch those old Lardy tapes to me. They need to be updated and with all new footage if Mike wants to keep sales up. I find the production quality is dated which makes for laborious viewing.

There is a lot of good fresh Material that gets into many aspects a lot deeper. Material that has been released over the last two years by Rorem, Attar, Stawski etc. With more material to hit the shelves when Judy & Danny's DVD is released.

Watch it all because, even one DVD on basics doesn't cover it all. Same with all aspects of training. It is good to read about different techniques used by different trainers and use what you feel comfortable with. Read the dog and do what works.

 

[Angie B]

Hard to watch those old Lardy tapes to me. They need to be updated and with all new footage if Mike wants to keep sales up. I find the production quality is dated which makes for laborious viewing.

There is a lot of good fresh Material that gets into many aspects a lot deeper. Material that has been released over the last two years by Rorem, Attar, Stawski etc. With more material to hit the shelves when Judy & Danny's DVD is released.

Watch it all because, even one DVD on basics doesn't cover it all. Same with all aspects of training. It is good to read about different techniques used by different trainers and use what you feel comfortable with. Read the dog and do what works.

It may be "outdated" to some, but everyone including myself recommends his tapes. Everyone is playing "catch-up" to him... And they won't catch him.... Cause they're just "been there,,, done that" :wink:

Angie

 

[Buzz]

Hard to watch those old Lardy tapes to me.

But you have to admit, those articles are hard to beat. And I don't think those other products you mention actually lay out a complete training program the way Mike's does. Can't speak for the upcoming Aycock/Farmer series.

As for mixing and matching. Speaking for myself, if I hadn't gotten a program from one guy and stuck to it, we would have had a mess.

Maybe with lots of experience regards...

 

[byounglove]

Look for the long awaited revision of Total Retriever Training by fall of this year. The basics section will have the most dramatic revision and is going to be 2.5 to 3 hours long. A completely new manual will also accompany the dvds.

Also....check www.ybsmedia.com and www. total retriever.com in the next week for our VHS trade in program.

Barbara Younglove
ybsmedia.com

 

[Franco]

But you have to admit, those articles are hard to beat. And I don't think those other products you mention actually lay out a complete training program the way Mike's does.

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When you look at total volumn of work available and quailty of instruction, then yes. And yes, I think the reprints of his training articles lays it out best. I would use it as the center.

But the other tapes I mention go into specifics a lot deeper and shows more on those specifics. I guess that I've just seen the Lardy material so much, I'd like to see something fresh from him. Especially some AA training in more depth. Find a water blind on any of his material that one would see in an AA stakes today. It doesn't exist. I'd like to see more from him.

Here's an idea for the next Lardy DVD, " Field Trialing With Mike "

Pick four or five complete trials and break them down series by series. What did he see as the factors with each and his approach to each series. Show diagrams of the test, wind direction, etc. Show how the dogs reacted to the factors and what he did to help them at a trial.

Doesn't have to be filmed at a trial. He could always recreate as much as possible for the sake of the training and instruction.

 

[Charles C.]

Look for the long awaited revision of Total Retriever Training by fall of this year. The basics section will have the most dramatic revision and is going to be 2.5 to 3 hours long. A completely new manual will also accompany the dvds.

Also....check www.ybsmedia.com and www. total retriever.com in the next week for our VHS trade in program.

Barbara Younglove
ybsmedia.com

Awesome!

 

[Franco]

Look for the long awaited revision of Total Retriever Training by fall of this year. The basics section will have the most dramatic revision and is going to be 2.5 to 3 hours long. A completely new manual will also accompany the dvds.

Also....check www.ybsmedia.com and www. total retriever.com in the next week for our VHS trade in program.

Barbara Younglove
ybsmedia.com

Well there you go! They recognize the need for freashing up too.

Maybe more AA training as well. :wink:

 

[Granddaddy]

I can understand certainly understand the revelations of reviewing.

I just reread Charles Morgan on Retrievers, written in the late '60s. I first read that book in the early '70s & found it helpful. I just reread it, don't know why really, I've just been rereading several of the older training books that I have. This book by Morgan, however, seemed like a new book to me. I found a new appreciation for Morgan, not for the drills or set-ups but his philosophy, insight & frank views of judging, training & where FTs were headed.

Maybe I ought to review the Lardy material too. :wink:

 

[John Suits]

retrievers

Lardy's stuff is awesome. A friend turned me on to him at a trianing session, dog training has never been looked at the same by me since. Evans stuff is also great. I've found that his reads a little easier and I put the two together for a well rounded program.

 

[Tim West]

One if the best sessions at the Lardy Advanced Workshop that I attended many years ago was when we were completely washed out by rain.

We retreated to Mike's kennel room and had a chalk session for three hours. We were able to talk about marking theory, intricate handling, etc. (Did you know that Mike has six different verbal casts, depending on what inflection he uses?) I didn't either until that day.

He also diagrammed the hardest setup he's ever seen in a trial and why it is that way and how to run it.

We talked about pond construction and what he would change on his own ponds if he did them over.

I would love to be able to do the same thing with Farmer, Rorem, and the other great ones.

Maybe I'll catch them on another rainy day.