Because unless the handler was giving the dog a straight back cast, the dog was scalloping into or away from a factor.Granddaddy said:
Because unless the handler was giving the dog a straight back cast, the dog was scalloping into or away from a factor.Granddaddy said:And BTW, I still don't see how some in the blind discussion think dog B was getting farther from the blind along the way, while clearly dog B was closer with every step.
I guess the easiest way to answer is by asking a question. Is it ok for a dog to give in to a factor on a blind?Granddaddy said:Indulge my admittedly simple mind & explain how scalloping affected the fact that dog B got closer to the bird with every step (potential cast refusals aside). It seems as simple as measuring the distance to the bird at each whistle stop location, where if noted, dog B is getting closer to the bird with each step & stop. I understand the dog is not taking a direct laser line to the bird even from each point stopped but even the dog's tangent path was still closer with every step. And another point while measuring, dog A took an approx 20% longer route to the bird - I just don't understand how that's better - help me and the rest of the minority understand.achiro said:...Because unless the handler was giving the dog a straight back cast, the dog was scalloping into or away from a factor.
I'm talking about dog number 2 and it was giving in to a factor. Mybe not one we know about but there was something that was keeping that dog going right. Maybe the dog just looked out and made the decision that it knew where the blind was, whatever it was it wasn't going left at all which tells me that it wasn't taking and holding the casts(or the handler suckedGranddaddy said:No it's not OK for a dog to give-in to a factor unless it is the more direct path to the blind- but still don't understand the inference.achiro said:I guess the easiest way to answer is by asking a question. Is it ok for a dog to give in to a factor on a blind?
We are talking about dog B from the blind discussion thread, right? If so the lines on the page indicated no factors. If you are talking about my example above (2 whistle dog & 15-20 whistle dog), then in my example 2 whistle dog didn't avoid or give-in to a factor just paralleled it then crossed it at another point in a responsive manner to the handler's whistle & hand signal.