[Peake]

Does anyone on board still utilize the above for "Fetch" through distraction or proofing? Also, would this be considered direct or indirect pressure?
Peake - Who is considering adding this to the tool box.
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[Kenneth Niles Bora]

you are that good with a sling shot? with the tools we now have in our hands why bother? you could put an eye out :roll:

 

[Howard N]

I've never done it. I saw it demonstrated one time. The demonstrator used sand in the slingshot fairly close at first and then some heavier sand slightly further out before he went to marble fetch.

I don't have the skills to attempt it. Honest Peake, with a collar there's no need to put your dog at risk.

 

[Dale]

I've never done it. I saw it demonstrated one time. The demonstrator used sand in the slingshot fairly close at first and then some heavier sand slightly further out before he went to marble fetch.

I don't have the skills to attempt it. Honest Peake, with a collar there's no need to put your dog at risk.

You guy have to remember Peake is Amish.

Liking modern electric conveniences regards.

 

[Tim Carrion]

Tried it once many,many years ago and never again. It requires great accurracy and greater timing yet the dangers are still very real.
If you must avoid "e" methods the more modern version of this technique maybe using paint balls.

Tim

 

[Ron Schuna]

Marbles for other issues

The Late Roger Reopelle tried to convince me to use marbles for collar wise behavior. Roger had seen it all and told me that marbles from a slingshot got the attention of Ch AFC Caroway's Wild Goose Chase and many others when they would train with out a collar. With his claims to be able to knock a pigeon from a telephone wire accuracy, I'm sure Roger was an ace in the marble training. He also told me he had a 55 gallon drum full of them.

 

[Carol Cassity]

I saw Mr. Reopelle use a slingshot and marble in a cool way. He had a young dog running its first cold water blind. Mr. Reopelle (I don't think I can call him Roger) would shoot the marble so it landed fifteen feet or so away from this young dog with a splash. He splashed marbles in front of this do for a while all along the way to the blind. That man's aim was amazing. He splashed that marble in front of the dog perfectly. I would be afraid of missing and beaning them in the head.

I have never tried it, but it was neat to see.

I will confess, I wish I had a slingshot and marble to bean Daytona in the head about an hour ago. She brought some dead something - not sure what it used to be - covered in maggots and stinking really bad out of the woods. We did the pry the jaws open thing - anybody know how to teach a remote drop? Better yet, anybody want a rotten varmit eating Chessie? If you get come and get her before I have to clean up the puke of what she got to eat before she brought me her lovely prize - you can have her. If I have to clean the puke up, I'm keeping her.

Smelly dog breath regards,

Carol

 

[Howard N]

You guy have to remember Peake is Amish.

Just tryin' to let Peake know it's never to late to learn a better way.

:twisted: :twisted:

 

[Kenneth Niles Bora]

Better yet, anybody want a rotten varmit eating Chessie? If you get come and get her before I have to clean up the puke of what she got to eat before she brought me her lovely prize - you can have her. If I have to clean the puke up, I'm keeping her.

Smelly dog breath regards,

Carol

if you keep more than one chessie on hand you will never have to clean puke up. :wink: I have not had to clean up puke in years. I do find random "clean spots" in the morning and wonder who gave and who got.

 

[pupaloo]

Unless you are talking about using a paintball in a slingshot, I don't think you could consider a paintball from a gun amish...

 

[DRAKEHAVEN]

It works, Gotta have great timing & aim.

Know that an Open winner from this weekend was very well accaquinted with marbles.

JUST AN "OLD SCHOOL TOOL" Some dogs respond better to this than the E collar....use what works for that dog.
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[MRGD]

When would you shoot the dog? For remote sit? Or punishment/correction?

No steelies I'm sure.

 

[Chris Atkinson]

Does anyone on board still utilize the above for "Fetch" through distraction or proofing? Also, would this be considered direct or indirect pressure?
Peake - Who is considering adding this to the tool box.

Peake, all the marble fetch I've heard or read about would be direct pressure. Some people still do it. Some claim your program's not correct or true to Rex without it.

Does this mean you have changed your position on going to your grave in your Nikes with an empty transmitter holster? The new G2's charge in two hours on a neat cradle, flip over to trickle charge when full, and have no memory on the batteries...very nice! :wink:

Keep the logo to the front!

- likely to not re-Amish myself, and still following Lardy's articles to the letter with trainer-limited, OK-to-good results,

Chris

* If my read on this is true, and you are considering taking on marble fetch as a "tool" but not considering using a collar, it feels like a mis-match to me. One of my finest pals on the planet avoids the collar methods because he's not keen on all the "pressure" that go with today's e-collar methods, per his interpretation. I'm quite sure he'd put something like marble fetch at the top of this list as undesirable or un-needed pressure.

* Did I write that I'm not too ready to put my Nikes back on yet?

 

[Peake]

Chris,
Wait a dawg gone [email protected]#* second did you say this was a Carr tool (RIP)!! The father of the modern collar method?? Hmm, well, Aah, OK maybe stinging old curly just to save a litl' leg work isn't such a good idea! :?
Scratch that Regards,
Peake

PS No Nikes?? OK then how 'bout those New Balance in the back of the closet??
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[Evan]

Yes. Marble fetch was a standard part of Rex Carr's progression during force fetch, along with stick fetch, buggy whip fetch, etc.

He would often start with a pinch of sand in the sling first to introduce a light stimulus, and then progress to a marble. As memory serves, he didn't belabor this. It was merely distraction/pressure conditioning, and only a small part of forcing.

I haven't done it in ten or more years, but it can certainly be effective.

Evan

 

[achiro]

no need to put your dog at risk.

 

[Chris Atkinson]

Peake,

Good luck!

I remember when you got over your reluctance to try FF, and you liked the results. I"m pretty confident that if you tried a newer "program", you may find that you like it.

I know it is fun to not be one of the many lambs following along the same path as so many others.

Honestly, you are a prime, prime candidate for a do-it-yourself program trainer.... Many years of training experience, several different dogs, a good appreciation, respect and a bit of a fear for the damage the e-collar can do.....

Watch out though...you may not be able to go back!

Chris