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Muscle Strain/Soreness/Cramp?

I have a couple of questions on this, your help & input will be appreciated.

Can dogs pull a "quad" or "hamstring?"
The area up in the hocks.
Can it be related to the heat or dehydration and be a cramp?
Will they have enough pain to limp a bit?
Does rest affect this or is something more needed?

If we touched the area up in the rear "buttocks" he made it clear that was tender.
It was a smaller area where he seemed sensitive, not the whole hock.
It was not in the knee area.

If we rest him a while will that help?
How long would you continue the rest?
We went for our morning constitutional today and he was fine, but I didn't throw any bumpers for him, just a long walk

Anything I missed please share.

Thank you,
 

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I'm confused...the hock is the area below the knee and not near what I would think of as a buttock on a dog (where you describe soreness).


Is this new or has it been going on for awhile.

How do the first 3 steps look when he gets up after a long rest?

Unfortunately, I've never known of lameness that was merely associated with a cramp.

When you say you "touched" an area and he made clear it was tender...did you mean touch, or did you do more than that (poke, prod, press)?

Using this figure has a guide, were you touching his rump?



In case it matters, have his hips been radiographed?

J.
 

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I'm confused...the hock is the area below the knee and not near what I would think of as a buttock on a dog (where you describe soreness).


Is this new or has it been going on for awhile.

How do the first 3 steps look when he gets up after a long rest?

Unfortunately, I've never known of lameness that was merely associated with a cramp.

When you say you "touched" an area and he made clear it was tender...did you mean touch, or did you do more than that (poke, prod, press)?

Using this figure has a guide, were you touching his rump?




In case it matters, have his hips been radiographed?

J.
The "RUMP" area.
(above the thigh and stifle)
I was kind of massaging the area looking for a "knot."


I also was checking the knee, which was solid and stable, he didn't react.
It is new, Sunday morning.

I just had him out for a squirt.
He got up and walked fine, "squirted" off of both legs, if you know what I mean.

Then I tossed a bumper about 5 yards.
When he left on about the third step he favored his right rear leg.

He runs pretty hard, so he could have pulled something.
I judged a test Saturday, the redhead had him playing with the neighborhood dogs & kids.
Friday we used him for the mechanics of our set up, he was fine.


I am pretty OC about this stuff.
He is moving nicer today and doesn't seem as stressed.

But to me, in people terms, seem hamstringish (I have been there).

We are entered in a test this coming Saturday.
I think I'll scratch him, but I may wait a bit.

Going into vet tomorrow.
(no on the hips, he will NOT be bred)

Thank you,
 

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It is not possible to be overly concerned about a dog's welfare IMO.

Based on what you said, if it was my dog there would be no running, jumping (including on or off the bed) or any sort of playing until seen and thoroughly examined by a vet. All outside activity would be on leash and only to potty.

It could be sore hips. All of my dogs have their hips xrayed and none have been bred.

Jeff
 

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check for lymes
 

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Pulled groin muscle? Have heard of a couple of those lately in field labs. Owners thought it was ACL, but it was a groin muscle pull.
 

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My lab had a bout of this last week, took him to the vet and he was sore in the same area that you describe. "tender in the gluteus medius and superficial area" We stretched him out and he did good for the exam but sore in that area. He also did the same thing on me last year and it seemed to occur when he jumped off or into something. This year it was him getting off my couch and he yipped a bit as his leg seem to drag some before it went to the floor, 2 days later I ran him and 1st mark he yipped 20 feet into it and we quit. No problems walking or no limping either, in fact he goes up and down the steps at his leasure. I had him XR last year for hips and all were normal ( no evidence of HD)

He seems fine now but we are still in time off mode, a week of rest and a script of rymadyl is what we are on

Hope your buddy feels better soon
 

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Patellar Luxation.
Surgery Friday.

Out 6/8 weeks.
Of all the bad news we could have gotten, this may well have been the least bad.

Thanks everyone.
 

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Sorry it happened. Glad he'll be back to work in 6 - 8 weeks.

Poor Elvis, he's probably like my dogs. Crate rest is a major bummer.
 

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sorry to hear, Now I might have to rethink a few things and have a a chat with my vet just to make sure, so why would they be sore so far up and not more so at the knee? tweaked the femur out of soccet?

you have to excuse my ignorance of medical terms here
 

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Patellar Luxation.
Surgery Friday.

Out 6/8 weeks.
Of all the bad news we could have gotten, this may well have been the least bad.

Thanks everyone.
Sorry to hear that Stan. Get the cold laser treatments-they work! Had a little dog with the surgery.
 

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Sorry to hear that Stan. Get the cold laser treatments-they work! Had a little dog with the surgery.
Cold Laser it is!!!

Vet showed me the "grooves" that were shallow.
Showed me X-Rays of proper grooves.
Congenital condition.

Also showed me his ACL's and bad ACL X-rays.
Everything looks very good, no arthritis.

Also, anither upside is his hips were excellent!!!

It is too hot to train tonight anyways!!!
 

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OH poor Elvis! Better stock up on some good chews to keep him occupied.
 

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Cans someone explain "cold laser" treatments?
This is from my brother's website, he uses a "cold laser" in his medical practice, along with accupuncture and other traditional methods of Western modern medicine

What is laser Therapy?
Laser therapy is the use of monochromatic light emission from a low intensity laser diode (250 milliwatts or less) or an array of high intensity super luminous diodes (providing total optical power in the 1000-2000 milliwatt range).

Conditions treated include musculoskeletal injuries, chronic and degenerative conditions and wounds. The light source is placed in contact with the skin allowing the photon energy to penetrate tissue, where it interacts with various intracellular bio-molecules resulting in the restoration of normal cell morphology and function. This also enhances the body’s natural healing processes.
 

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Sorry about the injury. Cool news on the hips though!
 

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who is doing the surgery on my friend elvis?
 

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Sorry to hear that Stan. Get the cold laser treatments-they work! Had a little dog with the surgery.
My bad, it will be "Laser surgery."
By Dr Gruwal, he has been my vet since the early 90's.

8:30 am Friday, home by 12:00 noon Saturday.
I saw the X-rays that showed his knee cap way out of place.
Poor little guy must have been hurting!
I feel bad, but he seems pretty happy today.

I knew something was not quite right for a while, but you could not tell to watch him run.
Always balls to the wall.
He never cheats on effort.

Any of you ever had this issue?

Thanks,
 
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