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Well, here goes:

I debated whether or not to post these publicly. I realized that I've been handling for HT/FT/hunting since the late 80's and I have NEVER seen myself on video.

I have watched a few times and I see some things that I need to fix, and did not realize I was doing.

Here are the video links:

Rosie - not a retriever - her second time ever with gunner-thrown marks. She has not been taught proper delivery/force breaking. We probably will not do so. (never say "never" though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPEdO652hQ8&feature=channel

Bus - my lab

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymW8b2YMYCY&feature=channel

Edit after watching: This is a city golf course that was recently shut down. It is in the city. No shooting allowed. Friends in law enforcement tell me blank pistol use would likely result in some squad cars and officers with guns drawn. I'm not going there!
 

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Rosie's a pip... What fun!!

You probably already know this but your sending way to quick once you drop your hand.

You fuss to much with Buzz hand cuing on the singles. Also you stand to high on the dog. Drop back to his hip. It will give you more room to push/pull your dog. It also opens up the field for the dog. You should step up if need be to help the dog find the gun, but then drop back before you call for the gun.

Dog should be in the middle of the mat and you on either side....

I didn't watch the video's all the way through. I've got to return some phone calls but that's what I got so far....

Don't cha love it??!! ;-)

Angie
 

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You fuss to much with Buzz hand cuing on the singles. Dog should be in the middle of the mat and you on either side....
I noticed the same things. Funny how that FF'd dog looks like he is enjoying his work!

Good job!
 

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I noticed the same things. Funny how that FF'd dog looks like he is enjoying his work!

Good job!
He probably is, we just can't see it... LOL!! Some dogs are darn serious about their work.... ;-)

Now the brindle pit had a hell of a good time!!!!

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At work and finally got to watch your video all the way through. Rosie looks like fun!!!!:) Buzz looked good. Runs real straight. Yes others have said you send too fast but don't we all!!! Nice place to train. Thanks for posting Chris It is a real eye opener for you when you do a video but a great learning tool.:) Thanks
 

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Very nice! I REALLY liked the way you instructed your bird guys. Clear, concise, calm and when it went south you remained just the same. Too many shouters out there!;)

Bus is a great looking dog. But please, please tell me there is a fence between the field and that super busy street in one of the backgrounds. When the dog crossed the rise he disappeared. One that runs fast and long, could be out there before ya know it.
 

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He probably is, we just can't see it... LOL!! Some dogs are darn serious about their work.... ;-)

Now the brindle pit had a hell of a good time!!!!

Angie
I thought you were "returning phone calls"? :razz: everyone on your speed dial list or just didn't want to talk? :confused::razz:
 

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When the title was "HANDLE" I expected to see you perform on a blind :).
 

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I thought you were "returning phone calls"? :razz: everyone on your speed dial list or just didn't want to talk? :confused::razz:
What do you think? I hang on the phone?? I cut to the chase... Gotta get back to RTF...

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You fuss to much with Buzz hand cuing on the singles. Also you stand to high on the dog. Drop back to his hip. It will give you more room to push/pull your dog. It also opens up the field for the dog. You should step up if need be to help the dog find the gun, but then drop back before you call for the gun.
I disagree.

I prefer standing with my inside leg even with the dog's shoulder.

I think that the dog is more cognizant of where you are and that small movements on your part can influence the dog when you stand more forward on the dog.

 

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Good afternoon for you guys to be out on the veranda!
 

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Nice Chris, only thing that stood out to me, was the quick send and we all do it, one of those thing I always have to think about myself. It was hard to tell in the video, but around the 2 minute mark, you gave a light stick correction and had the gunner pick up the mark, was the correction for the slight head swing??

We had a golf course close up here a few years ago it was good for a couple years and then it got overgrown and unusable, but it was nice while it lasted..
 

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More handlers should have someone video tape them while handling -- on marks and on blinds. Why do I think this?

Well, I am the wife. Long ago I was telling my husband what I thought he was doing wrong. I quickly learned that was not the smart thing to do. No more constructive criticism; I keep my mouth shut.

Years pass, he gets better as a handler, he is getting wins and placements. He goes to a Dave Rorem seminar. He gets constructive criticism from Dave (and does not bite Dave's head off). Later, in the mail he gets a video of himself handling at the Rorem seminar.

We both sit down to watch the video. I say nothing. I just watch.

He says:
"Boy, I sure look old."
"Boy, that jacket has sure shrunk up in the back."

And then very quietly under his breath,
"Why did I do that? I gotta work on that."

No matter how long you have been in the game, have someone video tape you while you are handling. You are probably not aware of the things you are doing or not doing.

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I disagree.

I prefer standing with my inside leg even with the dog's shoulder.

I think that the dog is more cognizant of where you are and that small movements on your part can influence the dog when you stand more forward on the dog.
Interesting Ted, your words are close to the exact thing Mike Lardy taught Chris three years ago at a great workshop we attended. The wonderful thing it that Chris actually remembered it and made it a habit.

Good job my friend, you and Bus looked really dialed in.
 

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I disagree.

I prefer standing with my inside leg even with the dog's shoulder.

I think that the dog is more cognizant of where you are and that small movements on your part can influence the dog when you stand more forward on the dog.

When staging the dog yes,,, but when pushing or pulling the dog as the marks go down you have more room to operate when you're not crowding the dog.

I ran dogs on Dave's truck this winter that were trained by someone else and those dogs wanted you very upfront on their body. It was very hard to move them easily in a quiet manner from gun to gun. They needed lots of movement, lots of vocal encouragement and motion which is not good on the line...

But if it works for you Ted? Don't mess with it...

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Good afternoon for you guys to be out on the veranda!

Are you kidding?? With spring break and everything else that needs done around here the veranda is the last place you'll see me.

And you?

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Interesting Ted, your words are close to the exact thing Mike Lardy taught Chris three years ago at a great workshop we attended. The wonderful thing it that Chris actually remembered it and made it a habit.

Good job my friend, you and Bus looked really dialed in.
Don't you just love clinics... ;-)

I know a lot of pro's that clinics were their only education...

FWIW

Angie
 
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