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UGA is holding an event in Iowa May 12/13, All Breeds, All Upland Test. Pointing labs are running in the pointing divisions and you test out in one weekend?!

Anyone else seen this? Attending? Looks interesting....

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what do they charge per event?
 

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I was on their site, it says $150 for the 2 day event, thats it.
Whether Gundog or Advanced title, same price. And you get to run in a Open Challenge for 1-3rd place and prizes.
 

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So if you pass one you title? That's really different.
 

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A title is not really a title to me unless its recognized by the AKC or UKC.
 

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So what you are saying if the dog can do all the work of a akc/ukc event but the owner of said dog is not a ribbon chaser it does not count for any thing.
Titles just prove the dog is capable of meeting a HT standard.
I run local upland hunting trials dog against dog, judged against set requirements that are scored. Even though not akc UKC recognized its still proof the dogs can hunt.
In my opinion any event you enter that shows a dog can do the work there is nothing wrong with it. Now if you plan on breeding people that have done their homework will look for akc/UKC titles.
 

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The UfTA is recognized by UKC, you can earn a F.CH title before their name on their pedigree by earning 20 points, 5 points for a win, 3 for a 2nd, and 1 for a 3rd and 10 points must come from wins. It takes a lot of events to earn a title though.

I have run in nearly every upland circuit and I will probably look into this one too, sounds like a good time.
 

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Titles just prove the dog is capable of meeting a HT standard.
I run local upland hunting trials dog against dog, judged against set requirements that are scored. Even though not akc UKC recognized its still proof the dogs can hunt.
In my opinion any event you enter that shows a dog can do the work there is nothing wrong with it. Now if you plan on breeding people that have done their homework will look for akc/UKC titles.
I met a great guy in Wyoming, Bo Allen of Stealthpoint Kennels, and trained with him on a few occasions. He has a wonderful German Wirehair and it was a thrill to watch him work/point. Bo runs his dog in trials and I don't believe they are AKC although he may run those also. Bo really liked my dog too and thought he would be very competitive in these trials. While I'll continue running AKC HTs and FTs, I would consider running these just because it's a lot of fun watching the dog use his nose and hold steady before putting up the bird and they're so happy to make that retrieve. Anything that involves birds is ok by me!

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That is correct. You can earn the upland title in just one event though, which really helps reduce travel and lodging costs. It also reduces the need for multiple entry fees!
Are you going to have some closer to Colorado in the near future?
There is also compitition too?

Looks fun,,,
 

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i would like to know who recognizes these titles akc ukc?. sound like something on the order of the BDC and they dont get recognized for there titles from akc or ukc . its just a big money game.
 

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i would like to know who recognizes these titles akc ukc?. sound like something on the order of the BDC and they dont get recognized for there titles from akc or ukc . its just a big money game.
And AKC, and UKC are not big money games?
 

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in the wisconsin series if you wanted to try for dog of the year in just flushing divison and you had 2 dogs and you had your dogs out there the most that they can beby the rules in 5 or 6 events it would cost you roughfully 5000. and if you run the bdc worlds or nationals one run is 350.00 or close to it.
 
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Just to be clear, the dogs have to pass 2 tests to earn the title. Visit our website to take a look, we have a nice hunt test and is a great way to test dogs in the upland spectrum of hunting. In all reality, the AKC does not offer this yet and is a big part of why we started. We fully support all hunt tests, and as dog owners, trainers, and handlers, we personally participate in several! We just wanted to offer an upland hunt test for all breeds (pointing and flushing) as another way to get dogs in the field, earn hunting titles, and to promote good dogs and good dog work.

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FYI .... Checked out the brochure .... who's NARA?? Maybe you mean NAHRA? :)
 
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ALSO: as I read this thread i'm seeing various points being made and wanted to address them... For the UGA, our biggest objection is and always will be "your titles are not recognized by the AKC or UKC". This is a true statement, yet we feel that is not something that should deter us, or our participants from participating. I would not call our business a "money game", believe me there is no money in it! Our hunt tests filled a few voids that we saw in the industry. 1) upland hunt tests were hard to find for retrievers (UKC upland test is only offered at a Finished Level, which is not achievable by several retriever owners who still own outstanding hunting dogs that can hunt, handle, find birds, and retrieve). 2) Pointing labs do not have a lot of options in terms of competing for true pointing titles. Personally, I do not own pointing labs but for the people that do, they should have a place other than just the APLA to earn these types of titles. 3) The "money game" is being played by the AKC and UKC as well technically, entry fees are not too bad as they have lowered recently, however you need several passes to earn the title which may help evaluate a dog's ability more, but lets be honest, you then have to find at least two events which almost always means you travel. So our goal was to provide a really nice hunt test that can truly evaluate a dog's hunting ability that can be run twice on saturday to earn the title in one weekend/event. We want to make this more affordable and rewarding for our dogs, and us handlers, trainers, hunters, dog enthusiasts, etc. As for the titles being recognized, that is our goal to get our upland hunt tests in front of you guys, to show that they are legitimate hunt tests and that a dog needs to be at a certain ability level to compete. Our "gundog" level tests are somewhere between a junior level akc test and a senior level. All in all, the gundog level tests do not require steady to wing and shot, but the rest needs to be there. Advanced level tests are more master level. Case in point, for those of you that own kennels or are in the breeding aspect of hunting dogs, these titles still show your active participation in hunt tests, as well as success in the field and your training program which will never hurt your breeding/training business. For what it is worth, I have seen MANY dogs with all kinds of AKC or UKC titles in their pedigrees, as well as on the dog themselves who were not great "hunting" dogs. As I said above, I participate in AKC hunt tests with my dogs, and belong to an HRC club as well. I hesitate to call any other organization competition because I think these organizations are what make us successful as breeders, trainers, and hunters. I invite all of you to run our event and see what we are about!
 
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Are you going to have some closer to Colorado in the near future?
There is also compitition too?

Looks fun,,,
We appreciate your interest. We would love to get into Colorado if we had a place to host it. We like to turn to breed clubs and/or hunt clubs to look for prospective grounds to host the test. Being a midwest organization, we do not have a lot of contacts there. Any help would be appreciated! Currently, other than Iowa, Illinois, and Wisconsin, we have a few groups working with us to get our tests in Oregon, and Mississippi.
 
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