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Since I don't have alot of faith in my mail man I called OFA to see if my results were mailed and they said they were finished today. They gave me the results over the phone and it was not what I was expecting after the Vet that took them gave me alittle different info. OFA gave the score of Fair on the hips and Good on the elbows. I have only seen ratings of normal on the elbows so not sure if they are now scoring different. I was hoping to stud him out but not sure if I should or not, I read that this score is still within normal. I quess I am looking for some guidence since this is still new to me.
 

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It is "normal" for elbows. I"d bet the receptionist was new. As for hips, I'd want to see the xray positioning and why they were scored Fair personally. Did you pay to get your films back or do you have a digital copy?
 

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It is "normal" for elbows. I"d bet the receptionist was new. As for hips, I'd want to see the xray positioning and why they were scored Fair personally. Did you pay to get your films back or do you have a digital copy?
I did not know I could get the film back. do they send any other info with the certificate? I know they take the 2 out of 3 ratings.
 

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Search the archives for hip dysplasia and you will find a wealth of information.
 

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I did not know I could get the film back. do they send any other info with the certificate? I know they take the 2 out of 3 ratings.
Yes, you can send them an extra $5 and your return address and they will mail the films to you but you needed to do that at the time of submission. http://www.offa.org/hd_procedures.html

Probably shredded now... I like mine on file here in case of an injury later on so we have something to compare to.
 

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Wait a few months- Get a 2nd xray, from a vet who does a lot of them, and resubmit. Maybe you get better results. If you dont -then you have to see what you want to do.
 

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Wait a few months- Get a 2nd xray, from a vet who does a lot of them, and resubmit. Maybe you get better results. If you dont -then you have to see what you want to do.
I totally agree. Go to someone that does a ton of OFA's.
 

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I don't let local vets do OFA radiographs anymore because you never know who is doing them and what their level of training or lack thereof is. I have a female that came back fair I waited a year and sent her to the University of Georgia and had them redone and they were good, same deal with a male only he came back excellent. Take your dog to a university teaching hospital where qualified people will be involved and since it is a teaching environment they will do it until they get it right whatever the outcome.
Also if it is a female make sure you are at least 4-6 weeks either side of a heat cycle.
 

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The Dr. I went to has alot of years taking X-rays for OFA in fact he is still on the OFA board. I will wait until the paper work comes in and make sure the lady told me correctly, then I may contact the Dr. and see what he has to say. I did wait longer to have them done by what I have seen on here, He will be 4 in Oct. If I have them retaken I will pay to have the film sent back. Thanks
 

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Interesting comments on here. Yes, poor positioning will make good hips look bad. BUT- no matter how many times the vet takes the xrays, it won't turn a dysplastic dog into a normal one...

Fair is still within the limits of normal.
 

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Wait a few months- Get a 2nd xray, from a vet who does a lot of them, and resubmit. Maybe you get better results. If you dont -then you have to see what you want to do.
Get a second xray if your still concerned, but remember OFA fair is still passing and no evidence of hip dysplasia....
 

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Interesting comments on here. Yes, poor positioning will make good hips look bad. BUT- no matter how many times the vet takes the xrays, it won't turn a dysplastic dog into a normal one...

Fair is still within the limits of normal.
Yes it is, but if someone is trying to maintain deep, tight hip sockets and the Fair is truly due to shallow, loose seated hips, then it's another consideration, correct?
 

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Fair is passing, but I can guarantee with all the studs out there that are good or excellent, a fair will be passed over unless he is very special. Fair is not dysplastic, but I got a fair on one dog and had it redone by someone that does a ton of xrays and he came back good. Yes, malpositioning is very common. Was the dog anesthetized? I would have them done again by someone without anesthesia.
 

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Fair, Good, Excellent? OFA certification is important, but how much difference is there between a fair and an excellent? It's Doctors looking at an xray. If people have them redone and move up a grade aren't we "splitting hairs" sometimes? Positioning, anesthetised, not anesthetised... I say they either have evidence of dysplasia or don't.

I know that elbows are rated normal if they're good. I'm surprised they have so many steps in hip certification.
 

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Fair, Good, Excellent? OFA certification is important, but how much difference is there between a fair and an excellent? It's Doctors looking at an xray. If people have them redone and move up a grade aren't we "splitting hairs" sometimes? Positioning, anesthetised, not anesthetised... I say they either have evidence of dysplasia or don't.
It matters to a lot of people that breed or that are looking for pups that have had dysplastic dogs. I won't buy from a Fair, and I don't breed Fairs. As far as bad positioning, I have had 3 when I had local vets do them, 2 subsequently rated excellent and one good. I sure would hate to waste a good dog to a bad x-ray and I can guarantee that when it happens, other people feel the same way.
 

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You might get a PennHIP if you re-do the hips. You can get a double film of one position and send it to OFA; then you'll have more to go on.

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Just enjoy the dog and don't worry about breeding him.
 

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Fair, Good, Excellent? OFA certification is important, but how much difference is there between a fair and an excellent? It's Doctors looking at an xray. If people have them redone and move up a grade aren't we "splitting hairs" sometimes? Positioning, anesthetised, not anesthetised... I say they either have evidence of dysplasia or don't.

I know that elbows are rated normal if they're good. I'm surprised they have so many steps in hip certification.
From what I've seen w/ my own xrays, a lot. I'd personally not be very happy w/ a fair, and further, the studies done on mating probabilities seem to support that we want to be focusing harder on the Exc/good end of the spectrum. Take a look at the data compiled by OFA a few years ago: http://www.britlabs.com/mating.htm
 

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I'd also ask what age and size is the dog. Had one big male ~100lb adult weight our vet said would come back Mild-diplasia when she took the x-rays at 2 years. 'Dang!!" The lady has never been wrong in her ratings before they're sent in. However also She also felt it was because the pup was not done growing and advised us to wait and retake x-rays @ 3 yrs. Which we did, he came back Good @ 3 yrs. It's really nice to have a orthro vet that knows what they're doing ;)
 
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