[LH]

Is that what you call the show lab? Are there other names?

 

[BamaK9]

:shock:

 

[mcderrylabs]

pidadors

Rude! But my pigadors look real good when in hunting//training weight or not being shown.. you cut back on the food! :roll:

 

[subroc]

Field bred labs…other labs

 

[Rick Hall]

Re: pidadors

Rude! But my pigadors look real good when in hunting//training weight or not being shown.. you cut back on the food! :roll:

I'm genuinely curious if this means there's a difference in "training weight" and showing weight? Ie: do you fatten a healthy dog to show it?

 

[SueLab]

This is like a scratched disc...keeps repeating, repeating, r e p e a t i n g, r e p e a t i n g ....

yuck

 

[FOM]

Any lab regardless of the pedigree can be a pig-a-dor.

It can be from genetics or training.

Basically it is a dog when sent to retrieve could put you to sleep watching it make the retrieve - no style, no desire, BORING. Also don't confuse an older dog who WANTS the bird, but the body just won't keep up with a pig-a-dor.

FOM

 

[Boondux]

I agree, SueLab. A couple discussions that keep popping up:

1) Show vs. field
2) American vs. other other country bred labs


Hey - whatever keep us interested. It beats the political and sports related topics...in my mind. Discussion is great.

Carrie

 

[Rick Hall]

Any lab regardless of the pedigree can be a pig-a-dor.

It can be from genetics or training.

Basically it is a dog when sent to retrieve could put you to sleep watching it make the retrieve - no style, no desire, BORING. Also don't confuse an older dog who WANTS the bird, but the body just won't keep up with a pig-a-dor.

FOM

I'd been hearing "pigador" in relation to working style, rather than body style or weight, long before hearing it applied to bench dogs. And while many seem to worry about too much dog, it's the ones without drive that I find sad to watch going through trained motions, or not, and fear with each new pup. Know a lot more about harness drive than creating it.

 

[crackerd]

Surely something was lost in translation and Linda meant to ask about the picador, which is found in the bullfighting forum.

MG

 

[ducksoup]

I'm with Lainee -- by the way love the new avatar

 

[ErinsEdge]

Ie: do you fatten a healthy dog to show it?

I was told by a well known professional handler I had to put 15# on my dog before she could be shown. I wouldn't do it for health reasons and she's still here at almost 15 years. That is the real reason some field dogs aren't shown more. Who wants to do that to their dog!

 

[Rick Hall]

Surely something was lost in translation and Linda meant to ask about the picador, which is found in the bullfighting forum.

MG

Thought this was the bullfighting forum?

 

[Misty Marsh]

"Pigador" is a crude term used to discribe the show trend of a lab who sports short legs and a barrel heavy shaped body with a big square head. The sad part is that this look is desired in the show ring, thus a dog with little athletic ability.

 

[3 dog knight]

Alright, so what's the difference between a pigador and a flabrador?

3DK

 

[Guest]

Here is a "pigador" and non-"pigador" playing:

"Pigador" jumping out of the water:

More "pigador" and non-"pigador" playing (we dont' take pics while training because there are only two of us and we cannot do it all):

Here is the "pigador" at 1.5 YO:

Here he is just last week at almost 2 YO:

I am not willing to put the extra 15 pounds on him, but I don't show in conformation. I do obedience and tracking and strating some hunt test training. This is a "pigador" that has Grade II elbow dysplasia and had surgery on both of his elbows. He has tons of desire to please despite his short-comings and can take pressure and not shut down. I am not dilusional and know he's not field trial material and probably not MH material either. But he is fit and athletic. But to you I guess he's just a pigador because of a piece of papers that says who his parents are.

I don't understand the point of the original poster's question. Are you just interested in learning disparaging names to call dogs from show lines? What about spending more time learning something more useful about the breed? What about doing something more productive than calling other people's dogs names?

 

[AmiableLabs]

I started attending FTs back in the late '70s and even back then the term "pig" was used to describe a working Lab devoid of style (usually because of too much training pressure). We still use it today at FTs and HTs.

My experience is that "pigador" is used by field Lab folks to describe overweight show Labs.

So context is relevant.

 

[Guest]

I started attending FTs back in the late '70s and even back then the term "pig" was used to describe a working Lab devoid of style (usually because of too much training pressure). We still use it today at FTs and HTs.

My experience is that "pigador" is used by field Lab folks to describe overweight show Labs.

So context is relevant.

Be that as it may, I just don't understand what the original poster is trying to achieve here. Seems like he's just looking for an arsenal of disparaging names to call show labs. I am not a fan of short fat Labs either, and I love a good show vs. field discussion, but name-calling does not achieve anything. At the end of the day, each side would go home offended but feeling superior about the type of the dog they own and further despising the other side.

I don't breed, don't show in conformation, don't compete in field trials, I claim no allegiance to either side, I am just a student of the breed. I have a dog from show lines. My next one will likely be from field lines. I am here to learn; I think there are many others here to learn. I think compiling lists of disparaging terms of either type of the Lab does disservice to the whole Labrador community, IMHO of course.

 

[LH]

Hi all!

Thanks for Your answers! Question originated in having read the term several times on this forum and being curious about the background of the name and if there where others. Language and culture curious.

 

[Steve Amrein]

The pictures of Juris' Pigadors are not correct they have all 4 feet off the ground at a time.