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I understand that there are number pointing lab breeders and titles that can be associated with pointing labs. My questions is, is this truly a trait that is passed along in breeding, or is pointing something that is trained as the results of being put on top of many many birds in training exercises?

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Dooooooooood,

This time of year them topwater baits don't work that good sometimes.

Prolly gonna need to add a worm and maybe some WD-40 regards

Bubba
 

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No doubt in my mind it is breeding. I aint smart enough to train it.:)
 

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I purchased a pointing lab back in October 2011, I just wanted a lab for my husband and I to take hunting so didn't care if she was a pointing lab or not. My husband dove hunts and I'm going to start duck hunting this next season. I haven't worked with her at all on pointing as i just needed a dog that would retrieve for me. We were at the lake a couple months back and came up on a field with a pony in it. She did a perfect point and held it for at lease ten seconds. I got my husbands attention and said check that out and started laughing. She did it naturally, I went home and looked up some of the dogs in her akc history and she has a good pointing line with all different titles. So yes I think they do it naturally, but need the training to do it everytime and anytime you what them to do it. She pointed my cat the other day, lol.
 

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It is very much genetic, most labs just want to run up and retrieve birds in the field, pointing labs still do that sometimes if they are not trained to a steady point but most pointing labs have a natural point that can be stiffened up.
 

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I can guarantee that it's genetic. Here is an 11 wk old in a pet home who is apparently pointing regularly in the backyard. Her great great grandma had a very stylish point and it occasionally still pops up. Behind grams (all field) WAY back was a Kellogg breeding and I assume that's where it came from. This pup is pretty much all show breeding now (~15/16 show).

 

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As for the pointing the pony, any dog will halt at times mid stride if they see something. However, yes it is a trait in certain labs. Some labs from my breeding will " flash point" or turn quickly when they get birdy, but they dont have any Pointing blood in them to my knowledge
 

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I understand that there are number pointing lab breeders and titles that can be associated with pointing labs. My questions is, is this truly a trait that is passed along in breeding, or is pointing something that is trained as the results of being put on top of many many birds in training exercises?

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This is passed down from one or both parents, I know a couple Pointing labs (PL) in my area that the sire was the PL and the dam was not. Those pups are pointing. I have 2, the one in my Avatar is the pup at 5 months and he is going to his first APLA hunt test in 2 weeks and runing for his Certified Pointing Retriever title, my older one has worked up through the ranks and is a 2.5X GMPR (Grand Master Pointing Retriever)

Besides genetic, it also takes birds and a bunch of them just as in retriever training.

So what why do you ask? are you looking at a PL pup?

Kevin, Glad to see you have at least 1 black dog to help train those yellow ones;)
All kidding aside, I enjoy watching your videos.
 

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I have a male that points. I have discouraged it because I was wanting a Grand title and he needs to " actively participate in the flush " I thought we were going to get dropped in his title run because he didnt want to come off point.
 

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I have a male that points. I have discouraged it because I was wanting a Grand title and he needs to " actively participate in the flush " I thought we were going to get dropped in his title run because he didnt want to come off point.
To me that's kind of a nice problem to have Tim! :D Granted, I can't imagine the pucker factor at that moment.
 

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This is passed down from one or both parents, I know a couple Pointing labs (PL) in my area that the sire was the PL and the dam was not. Those pups are pointing. I have 2, the one in my Avatar is the pup at 5 months and he is going to his first APLA hunt test in 2 weeks and runing for his Certified Pointing Retriever title, my older one has worked up through the ranks and is a 2.5X GMPR (Grand Master Pointing Retriever)

Besides genetic, it also takes birds and a bunch of them just as in retriever training.

So what why do you ask? are you looking at a PL pup?

Kevin, Glad to see you have at least 1 black dog to help train those yellow ones;)
All kidding aside, I enjoy watching your videos.
I do have a little Chocolate male coming up out of her! Does that count? :) Yep i have gone down to the yellers!!:)
 
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