[Targander]

Would you be more inclined to purchase a puppy if the Breeder offered money(s) back for achieving a title (FT or HT) ?

 

[Miriam Wade]

No-for me it would add (self imposed) pressure that would take the fun out of this. I didn't train my first dog (stop rolling your eyes Angie-I know everyone's heard this before!) until after she was spayed & so titles were for fun-nothing more.

One of the things I appreciate about the breeder I bought my new pup from is that she just wants a good home and truly doesn't mind if I don't ever run tests or trials with him. Both she & the owner of his sire have been a great resource, supportive and happy to hear when he does have an accomplishment. Obviously, any breeder offering incentives would do the same, but the incentive itself wouldn't be a selling point if I were looking for a litter. If I've done my homework the breeding says the dog has potential and if the breeder wants a working home they've done their best to place their pups with folks who play the games.

M

 

[subroc]

To use reverse logic, you aren?t giving anything back for titled dogs you are charging those that don?t spend the effort to title their dog a premium above the others.

Someone that wants a pup from your bloodline as a gun dog but doesn?t have the time or financial resources to title their dog pays more.

As a consumer, if I see any extraordinary ?conditions? on a sales contact, I will move on. If we meet or speak about a breeding and you feel I am wanting, for whatever reason, don?t sell me a pup.

If I pay my money, I want free and clear ownership without conditions.

 

[Howard N]

I bought a pup from a breeder who offered financial incentives if I started the dog's registered name with her kennel name and we reached certain goals. The dollar$ involved aren't enough to make much difference one way or other but I've amused myself telling the breeder how broke she's gonna be by the time Bam and I are done. :twisted:

Poor lady's gonna haveta take out a 3rd mortgage on her home and kennel.

Did I ever mention I'm easily amused. :wink:

 

[Angie B]

My first lab had incentives with his puppy contract and I took advantage of them. I think it's a nice touch. Especially for the family guy who only has one or two dogs he trains himself.

For myself now, I don't care about those type of things. As a matter of fact I don't care if the dog comes with a puppy contract anymore. I go with the breeder and pedigree and take my chances from there.

Miriam, I can never hear enough about how you started in dogs... :roll: :lol:

Angie

 

[Steve Hester]

I'm not a breeder but I can see why breeders do it. The more puppies proven from their litters, the more valuable the future litters. So, why would anyone have a problem with that??? :roll:

 

[Granddaddy]

I'm somewhere between the 2nd & 3rd choice. It really wouldn't be a primary consideration in a pup choice for me (so it likely wouldn't be a consideration at all) but I'd clearly be buying a pup with one of the goals to get the pup titled so I would take advantage of it.

I wouldn't find the incentive offensive. Just like Pike's stud ad incentive to titled bitches - I appreciate that Pike's owner wants to breed Pike to quality bitches & I appreciate it when breeders want their pups to go to owners whose intent is to train (have trained) their pup to its potential. That said, I don't think such an incentive will have much affect on the buyer whose intent is to compete - if they are going to train & compete, they will do it with or without the incentive.

 

[Miriam Wade]

I'm not a breeder but I can see why breeders do it. The more puppies proven from their litters, the more valuable the future litters. So, why would anyone have a problem with that??? :roll:

I don't have a problem with it, but the question was if you would find it incentive for buying a pup& for me it wouldn't be. I suppose I'd appreciate the check, but all things being equal & I were debating between 2 litters it would have no influence at all.

Hey Angie-did I ever tell you how I got started in HTs? Stop me if you've heard it alll before... :wink: (BTW-if I make it to the Rorem seminar-don't sit next to me. 5'4" looks a whole lot shorter next to 6'! )

M

 

[Angie B]

I'm not a breeder but I can see why breeders do it. The more puppies proven from their litters, the more valuable the future litters. So, why would anyone have a problem with that??? :roll

I don't have a problem with it, but the question was if you would find it incentive for buying a pup& for me it wouldn't be. I suppose I'd appreciate the check, but all things being equal & I were debating between 2 litters it would have no influence at all.

My feelings exactly.

Hey Angie-did I ever tell you how I got started in HTs? Stop me if you've heard it alll before... :wink: (BTW-if I make it to the Rorem seminar-don't sit next to me. 5'4" looks a whole lot shorter next to 6'! )

M

I make everybody feel that way. It's just a certain power I have!!

Angie

 

[Steve Amrein]

It would not sway me but it would be fun as Howard said to recoup some money. We had a litter of pups and we did offer some bucks back for titles but I dont think I told anyone before I got a deposit maybe even when they picked the dogs up I just thought it would be fun and a great way to keep in touch with the puppy owners. The female from that litter will be 7 soon and I have no plans of breeding soon and I did not plan on cashing in on the puppies performance to sell more pups.

 

[Ken Archer]

BTW-if I make it to the Rorem seminar-don't sit next to me. 5'4" looks a whole lot shorter next to 6'! ) M

FWIW, I like them short......but I loves'em tall. That's cause I always wanted a woman I could look up to. :wink:

 

[hhlabradors]

I always wanted a woman I could look up to. :wink:

Kennel up. :wink:

And to keep on topic in the thread, I voted that an incentive wouldn't sway me.

 

[Buzz]

Price of purchase is just a small fraction of the total cost so the prospect of getting rebates would mean little to me. The only situation I can think of is if you were just looking to get a brood bitch, maybe you could expect siblings to do something.

 

[Robert S. Libberton]

Interesting post,

The incentive program is a great tool to get above average placements for a bitches first litter. Its also a great tool for an owner who is breeding a female to keep a pup for himself, and wants competative homes for the litter.
I dont think it will sway someone looking for a competitive dog, but it will make people on the fence take a harder look. Placement for the once every 4-5 years litter is supremely important as a competitive bitch will likely see 1-2 breedings if the owner wants his personal stock to include her genetics. Those breedings are likely not about money but more about proving her ability to produce talent.

 

[Gina]

I voted no too. However, I had a discussion with a longtime breeder of performance based dogs years ago and she said that she had a hard time selling all of her dogs because they had so much go, and pet people didn't want that.

It would certainly be a tool to get new people into the dog sports in general and at the same time give an otherwise active dog something to do. The monetary thing is secondary - it's the cookie for the humans.