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I have a BFL out of Hawkeye's Candlewoood Shadow ( Abe and Lottie) X Nubile Tessie ( Lean Mac & Too Hot to Touch). She just turned four and is doing a pretty decent job at the Qualifying level. She 100% amatuer trained, has all the health clearances including CNM. I am seriously considering breeding her this spring if all goes well. My first pick would be Ford... great career ( over 200 AA pts), throws yellow, therapy dog, is bred naturally, and is probably currently the # 1 living sire of titled dogs today. Question: Is a Lean Mac grandaughter bred to a Lean Mac son too close? What other sires would possibly nick with the lineage? Thanks in advance.....
 

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FC-AFC VOLWOOD'S PEACHES AND CREAM 00 NDC is by a son of Maxx out of a daughter of Maxx. She has had a pretty good career.

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Don,

You could look at Gates -- FC AFC High Tech CEO would be good choice

Really interesting linebreeding would be a breeding to FC L & L's Black Tie Affair -- Tie is out of Shadow bitch with Sky Watch Radar in there as well plus Lean Mac through his sire (CNAFC Prairiemarsh Madness) -- dam is also double up on Lottie (Shadow and Trumarc's Candlewoods Lotta Zip)
 

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Hey Don,

Carbon has knicked very well with Lean Mac lines and would be one of my top choices. Another one that has been a successful cross has been with Code Blue. Cosmo has also done very well with Maxx's lines. But I know how much fire that Boo has, and Cosmo might well be too much gas. Carbon and Code Blue are proven studs and have clicked with the Maxx lines (Tessie). Also, both would be an outcross. Or, you could go with a linebreeding on Maxx that has also had some successful breedings. Then, you would have several good choices including one that you know that's near you (Dash).
 

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Interesting that three of us on this thread have dogs out of the same dam and closely related to each other as well through the sires -- and I'd still do a linebreeding back to Lean Mac with a touch of Lottie and Harley/Abe
 

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Interesting that three of us on this thread have dogs out of the same dam and closely related to each other as well through the sires -- and I'd still do a linebreeding back to Lean Mac with a touch of Lottie and Harley/Abe

http://retrievertraining.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6297&highlight=bottlenecking

http://retrievertraining.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4536&highlight=bottlenecking

http://retrievertraining.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5579&highlight=bottlenecking

http://retrievertraining.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17014&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
 

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My point wasn't that we were too tightly linebred -- or "bottle-necking" -- but I assume that is what you're implying -- in fact our dogs are related by the same dam -- two from the same litter -- and the paternal grandsire of the latest two happens to be the brother to the other dog's sire -- my point was that the reason I bought the pup I did was because of what I saw thrown in the previous litter by brother to the paternal grandsire of my pup -- can you say consistency -- linebreeding can provide that
 
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