[DSO]

I see litters advertised as "Lean Mac free" and "No Lean Mac". I sure this has something to do with a perceived health issue or genetic problem but could someone explain? Not looking to get anyone ugly, just looking for some answers as I'm in the market for a new pup. Please PM only if this is one of those "dead horse" repeat questions.

Thanks, Danny

 

[labman52738]

Lean Mac was fairly genetically clean, but was bred a ton. In the field trial circuit, it is hard to find anything that doesn't have Lean Mac in the pedigree. There is nothing wrong with anything out of Lean Mac. They are very talented animals, but may be more than an Amateur can handle. Although it will all depend on the female lines also.

 

[Tim Carrion]

I see litters advertised as "Lean Mac free" and "No Lean Mac". I sure this has something to do with a perceived health issue or genetic problem but could someone explain?

Thanks, Danny

It's called "diversity". The retrieving labs have a gene pool that provides choices that should be valued and preserved. The other retrieving breeds only wish their pool was as deep.
Tim

 

[Rick Hall]

The other retrieving breeds only wish their pool was as deep.

Amen.

 

[FOM]

DSO,

Not health related at all - for example my current dog has Lean Mac as his grand-sire (grandfather) and I am always looking for a litter that is Lean Mac free with the hopes of getting a female that has a pedigree that will compliment him - assuming she is not a washout and can get QAA at minimum and pass her health clearances - I can breed the two down the road.....of course this plan is full of "if's" but it is a good example of why someone would be interested in a non Lean Mac type of litter.....

Lainee, Flash and Bullet

 

[DSO]

Thanks for the replies. It all makes sense now. I made an inaccurate assumption that there must be some underlying health problem... I mean a dog of his stature in a pedigree could only be an attribute. Now I understand it's not a knock on him at all. Sorry and didn't mean to offend.
Thanks for the knowledge.

Danny

 

[ErinsEdge]

Keep an eye on what FC/AFC Cori produces with a non-LeanMac bitch.

 

[Granddaddy]

.... They (Lean Mac progeny) are very talented animals, but may be more than an Amateur can handle. Although it will all depend on the female lines also.

Hey labman do you care to elaborate? I have found Lean Mac progeny to be very tractable. I'm no expert (& not a pro) but do own & train 3 LM males who are sleeping at my feet as I type. I'm of the opinion that LM bred to the right bitch offers one of the best opportunities for a great FT dog with good temperament - and an excellent choice for the amateur FT trainer.

 

[ducksoup]

Have to concur with Grandaddy -- Lean Mac offspring (either get or grand-get or whatever) are very much trainable by amateurs

 

[labman52738]

.... They (Lean Mac progeny) are very talented animals, but may be more than an Amateur can handle. Although it will all depend on the female lines also.

Hey labman do you care to elaborate? I have found Lean Mac progeny to be very tractable. I'm no expert (& not a pro) but do own & train 3 LM males who are sleeping at my feet as I type. I'm of the opinion that LM bred to the right bitch offers one of the best opportunities for a great FT dog with good temperament - and an excellent choice for the amateur FT trainer.

I have seen quite a few, probably not with the right female, that were a handful, borderline out of control. That is why I put in the original post something about it being part of the female lines.